mattsaunders

according to today's Mirror, Terry, Ferdinand and Cole might ALL be left out, to guard against suspension against Russia

"REST-ONIA" was their enormously clever headline

Gray-2007

Lescot is fab. You'll find that out soon.

retired_Fit

Most of the articles i have read today and yesterday hinting at Terry being left out. I wouldnt want to leave too many of the established back 4 for reasons of continuity. Also, i dont really expect the likes of Ashley Cole to be lunging into too many tackles against Estonia and risk picking up a booking

retired_bball3378

Rob, what did the fans have to do to get their VISA applications sorted?

There's something like 20 days between the 2nd leg of the champions league semis and the final in Moscow. If any of our clubs get through it could be a right mess.

mattsaunders

if you go to the embassy in person, you can get it done same day for £95. print off all the paperwork online, drop it off in the morning and pick it up between 4pm and 5pm. I paid £45 for mine to get it back in 7 days (but still going to the embassy in person to drop it off and pick it up)

you can apply by post, but then it can take 3 weeks or so, so you'd be cutting it fine.

retired_bball3378

cheers rob, could be fun with 40,000 thousand or so apply in the same couple of days...

mattsaunders

nah, despite the scaremongering it was all pretty straightforward. theoretically though, you do have to have 'invited' to the country, which means either going through a tourist agency, or booking a hotel before putting the visa application in and getting a document from them

mattsaunders

to be invited, obviously

jesus i don't know what's wrong with me

mattsaunders

Green bemused by England snub

Robert Green cannot understand why he has slipped down the England pecking order after the West Ham 'keeper claimed he is in the best form of his career.

Green was called into Steve McClaren's squad for the summer games with Brazil and Estonia and insists he was told "my position was there to lose".

But he was overlooked for the Euro 2008 qualifiers with Israel and Russia at Wembley in September and has again not been included for the double-header with Estonia and the return meeting with the Russians in Moscow.

Green claims he has been given no explanation by McClaren who, along with England goalkeeping coach Ray Clemence, watched the former Norwich player in action at Aston Villa while fellow international hopeful Scott Carson was in the other goal.

Green performed capably enough before being beaten by a deflected free-kick from midfielder Craig Gardner which earned Villa a fourth successive league win.

Green said: "In the summer I was in the England squad and got told my position was there to lose - and I lost it through not playing a game.

"That's something, if people want to find out about things like that, then it needs to be brought up with England. From my point of view, I am playing as well as I have done in my career.

"When I was at Norwich in the Championship I got told I was good enough to be in the squad. Now I am playing with West Ham in the Premiership and playing well, it seems I'm not good enough.

"Players have come in and David James got picked on good form but I have lost my place when in good form. I'm obviously in terms of choice quite low down the pecking order.

"You try to work logic and sense into these things and the only thing you can say is they don't regard me as good enough.

"I've had no explanation from England. I found out I was not in the squad when it came up on Teletext. No-one has contacted me."

retired_laticia3

Presuming they're all fit:

James > Foster > Green > Carson > Robbo