Religion in your country

retired_suppamom · 10-18-2007, 05:26 PM

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Until I came at the Tacitus Wikipedia Page.
You dug your own grave here Rvd, this shows it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about and you only quote from other websites, including Wikipedia apparently.

I looked up wikipedia one time, and I don't know ****?

All you've done is quote from on-line encyclopaedias and bible-thumping sites.

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Tertullian was a christian and probably talked a lot about the death of Christ.
Lactanius was christian too and also wrote about the death of Christ.
Eusebius was a bisschop ffs. Must have written a lot about the death of Christ.

That's a lot of assumption there. Typical of you tbh.

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I assume you never read any books about this at all,

...and there you go again, trying to discredit your opponent by calling into question their intellect. All it shows time and time again is that you have some sort of inferiority complex, probably because you can't provide any real scholarly work to support your arguments.

The fact is I've quoted several books in this thread, with the authors and titles, so you can cross-reference if you need to. You have quoted precisely zero books on the subject.

It's ok, I understand, you're a poor, persecuted christian.

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http://www.britannica.com/eb/article.../Philo-Judaeus
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/people/philo.htm

And there's more...

No exact date given.

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There's a lot. Including about 20 ancient books from the first century who had more manuscripts than any other ancient scripture in history. You can read them all online.

Well?

retired_ks reddy · 10-18-2007, 05:26 PM

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You're changing the subject here from heathen to jewish temples.
I'm not sure if christians rampaged through 'Jewish temples', it don't seem likely. Just as unlikely as them rampaging through heathen temples. I never heard any story of early christians doing that. You probably never did either, all you do is just 'assume things'. Even if those things don't correspond with history.

You're quite right - the christians were so tolerant they didn't rampage through temples. They just knocked them down and used the bits to build churches instead.

retired_suppamom · 10-18-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Dutch Dave:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by rvd313:
Repeating the same crap over and over.

You know, I wouldn't have to repeat things so much if you would have stopped ignoring half my post? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Because you've yet to actually provide evidence disproving my point?

Don't worry, I won't be holding my breath. I'm sure Bert will keep you company though, he's far more stubborn than I am.

retired_ks reddy · 10-18-2007, 05:29 PM

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I didn't ask if they were subversive in your eyes.
I asked if not bowing down to the emperor, but still paying taxes, made them intolerant or hateful in your eyes. Does it?

No, that just makes them subversives. The intolerance and hate comes in with the cristian treatment of other religions.

retired_ks reddy · 10-18-2007, 05:30 PM

And of course being subversive is going to get you persecuted.

As for sources, we've nearly 2000 years of evidence of christians persecuting other religions. What, specifically do you want sourced?

retired_suppamom · 10-18-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Dutch Dave:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by rvd313:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Dutch Dave:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by rvd313:
So, no, you're not going to deal with my initial assertion.

Fine.

I love how you <STRIKE>answer</STRIKE> ignore my questions.

What initial assertion? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Dude, if you're going to link to a bunch of Christian websites as sources, completely ignore what I say and repeat your tedious bloody mantra, then yes, I'm going to ignore you.

Bye. </BLOCKQUOTE>

FFS. I barely linked to Christian websites, stop making that claim.
I LINKED TO EGYPTOLOGY WEBSITES, WHICH YOU NEVER DID

And to accuse me of ignoring what you said is about the most hypocritical thing I've ever said on here.
But if you keep ignoring EVERYTHING I said, and everything I ask you, we might as well quit this debate. You're a useless debater..

If you want to believe in all that bullsh*t, do it. I can't believe you still do that after I exposed it for what is in my last post: CRAP.
But you follow Massey, the dead poet with a special interest for Egypt. I follow the far majority of contemporary Egyptologists.

But please, feel free to believe in your lies.

Have fun. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you calling my debating skills into question? Now THATS the most hypocritical thing I've ever seen. You debate at a primary school level. You belittle your opponents, provide mounds of pointless links and 'evidence' in an effort to swamp your opponent so much he might give up. The only problem for you, was I didn't, so you then had to continually repeat your ridiculous mantra, and repost your swamp of disproven 'evidence'.

You have exposed precisely zilch but your ignorance, fanaticism and inability to actually have a civilised discussion.

You have still yet to find these modern egyptologists who say the work of Massey is a load of toss. A few random forum links doesn't do it for me.

But please, feel free to believe in your lies.

There is no god.

This discussion is over.

retired_suppamom · 10-18-2007, 05:36 PM

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The fact is I've quoted several books in this thread, with the authors and titles, so you can cross-reference if you need to. You have quoted precisely zero books on the subject.

It's ok, I understand, you're a poor, persecuted christian.

retired_zersmiller · 10-18-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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Until I came at the Tacitus Wikipedia Page.
You dug your own grave here Rvd, this shows it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about and you only quote from other websites, including Wikipedia apparently.

I looked up wikipedia one time, and I don't know ****? </BLOCKQUOTE>

No.
You don't know **** claiming famous early church fathers like Eusebius and Augustine never wrote about the death of Jesus. That's some funny stuff honestly,
they were CHURCH FATHERS FFS! The death of Jesus was the very foundation for their entire lives!

You misinterpretated a quote of Wiki totally wrong, painfully exposing your lack of knowledge.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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All you've done is quote from on-line encyclopaedias and bible-thumping sites.

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Nope... I quote many other sites. You must have missed them? No wonder, with all the selective ignoring you do all the time.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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Tertullian was a christian and probably talked a lot about the death of Christ.
Lactanius was christian too and also wrote about the death of Christ.
Eusebius was a bisschop ffs. Must have written a lot about the death of Christ.

That's a lot of assumption there. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Haha, this is brilliant.

Assuming that Church fathers wrote about the death of Jesus isn't excactly far-fetched, now is it?

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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I assume you never read any books about this at all,

...and there you go again, trying to discredit your opponent by calling into question their intellect. All it shows time and time again is that you have some sort of inferiority complex, probably because you can't provide any real scholarly work to support your arguments. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I have many times, you just ignore it.

It's blatantly obvious to me you haven't read books about the subject because you would have known Eusebius or Augustine.

You just copy&paste, that's all you know.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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The fact is I've quoted several books in this thread, with the authors and titles, so you can cross-reference if you need to. You have quoted precisely zero books on the subject.

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On what subjects do you want me to quote books?

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Originally posted by rvd313:
It's ok, I understand, you're a poor, persecuted christian.

I'm not persecuted.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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http://www.britannica.com/eb/article.../Philo-Judaeus
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/people/philo.htm

And there's more...

No exact date given. </BLOCKQUOTE>

They gave an exact date in your article?

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Originally posted by rvd313:
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There's a lot. Including about 20 ancient books from the first century who had more manuscripts than any other ancient scripture in history. You can read them all online.

Well? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Does the bible ring a bell? It includes those ancient books.

retired_zersmiller · 10-18-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by rvd313:
Are you calling my debating skills into question? Now THATS the most hypocritical thing I've ever seen. You debate at a primary school level. You belittle your opponents

Nope, 'namecalling' is 'belittling'. Saying you don't know **** about many things is just stating the apparent fact.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
provide mounds of pointless links and 'evidence'

What link was pointless?

You find Egyptology-links pointless? No surprise there.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
in an effort to swamp your opponent so much he might give up.

Not at all, I was really shy with the sources last time, because I didn't want to make you feel you were drowning again.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
The only problem for you, was I didn't, so you then had to continually repeat your ridiculous mantra

I had to repeat my questions and answer because you IGNORE them, yes.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
You have exposed precisely zilch but your ignorance, fanaticism and inability to actually have a civilised discussion.

Pfff... haha. Civilised discussion? Says the #1 'namecaller' of the topic.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
You have still yet to find these modern egyptologists who say the work of Massey is a load of toss.

As I showed you, egyptologists don't give a crap about Massey, they don't even talk about him.

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Originally posted by rvd313:
This discussion is over.

You're copping out from my questions too? Man...

retired_suppamom · 10-18-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dutch Dave:
You misinterpretated a quote of Wiki totally wrong, painfully exposing your lack of knowledge.

Irony, considering the number of times you quoted 'non-christian' scholars only for them to be proven to be priests and evangelicals.

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Nope... I quote many other sites. You must have missed them? No wonder, with all the selective ignoring you do all the time.

All you've done is quote from on-line encyclopaedias and bible-thumping sites.

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Assuming that Church fathers wrote about the death of Jesus isn't excactly far-fetched, now is it?

So, you are assuming then? Proving perhaps, that you 'don't know ****' as you so eloquently put it.

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I have many times, you just ignore it.

No.

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It's blatantly obvious to me you haven't read books about the subject because you would have known Eusebius or Augustine.

I've quoted books in this thread. You have not done so. If there's a chance of either of us not having read books on the subject, the smart money is on you.

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You just copy&paste, that's all you know.

This from the 'copy&paste' KING?

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On what subjects do you want me to quote books?

Jesus/Horus/Mithras

You know, the thing you've ignored the entire thread.

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I'm not persecuted.

You act like it.

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They gave an exact date in your article?

Yes. 54CE

Yours say, Died: 45–50 CE.

You need reading comprehension. Maybe then you would be able to read some books.