retired_jabda

Yes to Treaty, yes to referendum.

In Ireland, by law we need a referendum \o/

retired_ks reddy

If we had a constitution we could make laws about having a constitution.

gah

retired_vic1974

Simon Hughes of the libs was on question time the other night. Very tactfully put it that the vast majority of people would not bother reading the constitution. As they are too busy/stupid. Got hooted out by some poshos in the audience who accused him of being patronising. Its like some people never walk the streets of britain. 98% of any no vote would be from people who dont like the french.

retired_breakbred101

You have a point though, people would vote on the idea of whether or not we should be in the EU at all, rather than the question in hand. Which is probably what someone else has said already.

retired_princesspouty

Exactly - it's not patronising when it's the truth. The kind of people who go to Question Time probably aren't the type of people he was talking about. But they aren't an average cross-section of society - they're people interested in politics.

It's not patronising in the sense that you aren't calling something thick if they haven't read the constitution and therefore don't know what the issues are, you're simply acknowledging that most people aren't interested enough to make that effort - which is fair enough.

These people, and I don't know what percentage it is, would vote based on their personal view of Europe. The English, for some reason, consider themselves distinct from the rest of Europe and some have a bewildering/laughable sense of superiority.

It'll be interesting to see the overall opinion of Scots and Welsh. Whether many will be against it to drive on for independence, or for it, because being part of Europe is better than being part of Britain.

retired_lyriclemelodee

The kind of people who go to Question Time probably aren't the type of people he was talking about. But they aren't an average cross-section of society - they're absolute morons

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Fixed.

Genuinely think the QT audience would applause any sentence with the words "Blair/Bush" and "bad" more vigorously than "I've cured cancer". Twats.

retired_jabda

Exactly - it's not patronising when it's the truth. The kind of people who go to Question Time probably aren't the type of people he was talking about. But they aren't an average cross-section of society - they're people interested in politics.

It's not patronising in the sense that you aren't calling something thick if they haven't read the constitution and therefore don't know what the issues are, you're simply acknowledging that most people aren't interested enough to make that effort - which is fair enough.

These people, and I don't know what percentage it is, would vote based on their personal view of Europe. The English, for some reason, consider themselves distinct from the rest of Europe and some have a bewildering/laughable sense of superiority.

It'll be interesting to see the overall opinion of Scots and Welsh. Whether many will be against it to drive on for independence, or for it, because being part of Europe is better than being part of Britain. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Aren't the Celts in the UK generally much more pro-EU than the English?

retired_princesspouty

The ones that don't like being in a Union comprising England probably are. I think most Scots and Welsh are sensible enough to realise that being independent, especially if a European Union exists would be a very bad idea. Decentralising in the modern world is just foolish imo, and I include England in that too.

retired_ehicks84

whs. the vast majority would simply not look beyond an 'OMG europe are going to take us over' viewpoint.

retired_jenn912010

Unless they'd been watching Braveheart recently. Under which circumstances, all bets are off.