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Old 10-20-2007, 01:45 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #31
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If they're old enough to take a life, they're old enough to take the punishment.
You'd lower the age of responsibility to the age you can chuck a stone?
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:55 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #32
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They were chucking bricks. They had already fractured his cheek. It was anoher stone that smacked his head that did damage.

I'm glad they went down.

I used to be against hanging and the like, but now I'd be happy for them to have their balls removed.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:55 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #33
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And I'm not talking cricket balls either.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:57 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #34
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They were chucking bricks. They had already fractured his cheek. It was anoher stone that smacked his head that did damage.

I'm glad they went down.

I used to be against hanging and the like, but now I'd be happy for them to have their balls removed.
Just the 12 year olds, or the 10 year olds too?
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:08 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #35
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I'd be happy for them to have their balls removed
If you'd said 'hands' I could at least have understood that you want to prevent them doing it again, but what is this going to do?
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:14 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #36
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tbh I'm not really sure about this case.

Lots of kids aged 10 do stupid stuff like this. I don't think for a minute that these kids thought they might injure/kill anyone through their actions.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:22 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #37
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I think they should keep it the same age.

That way it is up to the judge's discretion. If they are decent kids and have made a mistake. Then the judge still has the option of giving them a soft sentence. But they know that there is no guaranteed soft sentence.

The guy they killed. He just wanted to go down to the park to play cricket with his son. It is a family activity in the daytime in a public park. You should feel safe there and not expect to be stoned.

Those kids deserved to go to prison.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:26 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #38
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i would probably have just had them taken outside and quietly shot, then blamed youth gang culture for taking the lives of innocents.

and how would they not know that heaving half a brick at an old man lying on the floor with a fractured cheek bone might do some serious damage?
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:28 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #39
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"And without that court case, could Mr Norton's family ever have felt satisfied that justice had been done?"

I've never understood the "victim's rights" movement. The man died -- whether the kids are properly punished or not, he's dead and not coming back. The man's family needs as much therapy as the kids if they feel a need for some kind of revenge.

And, yeah, ten is awfully young to be charged with a crime.
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Old 10-20-2007, 02:37 PM   Age of criminal responsibility Post #40
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All kids aged between 10 and 20 should be locked up IMO, fit girls could get parole though.
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