[retired_kevh16]

its a shame that Argentina are in a group with two good teams. Had they been in our group or Scotlands group then they'd have had a much better chance of getting out of the group stages.

COME ONE ITALY AND ARGENTINA

Given up hope with England tbh. Just wondering who's going to get injured next.

[Yukimara]

New Zealand should win it however they are known to choke so the 3 teams i think could challenge them are France,Australia and South Africa with England, Ireland and Wales with an outside chance but would need a lot of luck.

[retired_oldfierce]

'mon Scotland, again.

[retired_eugenia]

Going to be humiliating for England, quarters at best, which will be very depressing after the elation of 4 years ago. England don't even know how they want to play at the moment, and until they decide they will only ever be mediocre.

Springboks should do pretty well as ever. Everyone will expect them to try and cripple England when it won't happen as this Springbok side is a whole lot better than the one four years ago.

Anyway as long as that thug Grewcock isn't allowed near the England squad (he's banned anyway isn't he (shock of shocks there)) I'll be happy. So much talent but wasted it a lot of the time.

[retired_hbjohns]

Grewcock as much of a thug as Johnson was.

England - Samoa will decide who's inthe quaters too Finneys.

[trotamundos]

Johnson clever though, Grewcock not.

[retired_hbjohns]

My point actually was, that they both have got reputations over 2/3 incidents in their careers.

[anon414]

I got a ticket for the Quarter Final should be the All Blacks vs Ireland in Cardiff

[Ventil]

Nowt depressing about spending 6 years building up to one key game and winning it.

We were never going to have the same calibre of players as we took to Australia four years later.

Our preparation and execution in WC 2003 was exemplary and should be used as a bench mark for future teams.

[trotamundos]

Originally posted by josh_b:
My point actually was, that they both have got reputations over 2/3 incidents in their careers.

Well I'd disagree with that anyway. Can't pretend I watch Grewcock every week, but I've certainly seen many more than 2 or 3 incidents. Guess there's just the main ones he's been caught for to get the rep, but it's not as if they are the only things he's ever done.