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10-26-2007, 03:31 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #131 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Gregg Carter:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by xnellyrx:
all that says is that he was unhappy with contract talks and that he didn't know about Manchesters interest but he wanted away when he found out. Im confident he wanted to leave and we couldn't really of held onto him, plus 18£m is still a good deal even now imo.
| I wouldn't say £18m is a good deal when you still haven't replaced him two years on. </BLOCKQUOTE>
I would. I would still do it again, the only bit I would change is sign someone other than Zokora.
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10-26-2007, 03:32 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #132 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by xnellyrx:
all that says is that he was unhappy with contract talks and that he didn't know about Manchesters interest but he wanted away when he found out. Im confident he wanted to leave and we couldn't really of held onto him, plus 18£m is still a good deal even now imo.
| Meant to ask, did you read the rest of the article?
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10-26-2007, 03:34 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #133 | | Newb
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Originally posted by mark g:
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he should know better though shouldn't he? when the **** has something like this ever worked in english football?
asking for trouble imo.
| Seems to work fine on the continent, which suggests to me that it's as much that we haven't figured out how to do it properly rather than it being a flawed concept in principal. Which may be as much down to British managers not being used to hand over control of any aspect of the job. And more than that, seemed to work fine at Tottenham when it was Arnesen, someone who both had the knowledge to do the job, and worked closely with his manager. </BLOCKQUOTE>
erm. it worked last season and I don't think its not worked. The main reason Jol has deserved to go is refusal to adapt or change his tactics, making poor decisions at the wrong times during games, not dropping under performing players and shwoing himself up tactically against the top clubs and in big matches.
Thats the reason he is out of a job not because of Commoli, or any DoF.
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10-26-2007, 03:41 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #134 | | Newb
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Wouldn't class that article as the absolute truth.
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10-26-2007, 03:42 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #135 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by Neil Purvis:
Wouldn't class that article as the absolute truth.
| well of course not.
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10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #136 | | Newb
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aniel Levy is a ****ing ****. Absolute ******. He's finally found a 'yes' man in Commoli, and they're ripping this club apart. First Kelmsley, then Jol and Houghton, and now Segers.
The treatment of Jol, plus two long serving employees is disgraceful. And he's done it in such a gutless manner.
Yes, Jol didnt have the necessary experience and mentality to take us to the next level, but no-one deserves to be stabbed in the back like that.
Commoli has now come out saying Ramos is the man we want. Knowing Spurs, and especially knowing Spurs under Levy's dictatorship, it'll be the dream team of Jamie and Harry Redknapp, or even worse, Pleat and Souness.
Levy's finally got what he's wanted, Jol out. WDUFC
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10-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #137 | | Newb
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Which continental clubs have succesfully adopted Directors of Football into their system?
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10-26-2007, 04:43 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #138 | | Joe Blow
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Real Madrid employ a director of football don't they? And they've hardly been unsuccessful over the years. Although i don't know how long they've been using that system. Or how much say the DoF actually has, compared to the club President or whoever...
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10-26-2007, 04:45 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #139 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Neil Purvis:
Which continental clubs have succesfully adopted Directors of Football into their system?
| doesn't every single one in Spain have one? Barcelona have one, i'm sure of that. I really think we are one of the last countries in Europe not to tack onto this DoF.
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10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
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ITV - Jol sacked - Juande Ramos to take over Post #140 | | Newb
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Yeah meant to add on in what capacity they were successful as well. With regard to Spurs it sound like the DoF was mainly buying players for the manager, but I’m not sure how many other clubs have pulled that off.
Don’t know how long Real Madrid had one for, but seem to recall them signing a galactico a season and winning pretty much naff all then started buying lesser known ‘good’ players (defenders) and they won the league.
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