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Old 06-25-2007, 12:39 AM   the FC Barcelona thread - 2007/2008 Post #81
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I was damn sure it would be a 4-3-3 as ever but with Ronnie dropping into midfield. He basically plays in that sort of role for Brazil doesn't he?

So...
-------------------Toure------------
------Xavi/Iniesta---Ronnie------
------Messi------Eto'o-----Henry-
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Yeah, I don't follow Barca anywhere near as closely as the Yovan and R4M but there is no chance Henry will be on the bench at the start of a game, unless he is injured.
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Originally posted by brett.spurs:
How much is Toure going for ?
Around 8 million pounds
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:46 AM   the FC Barcelona thread - 2007/2008 Post #84
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and he's been crap in it for Brazil. Not a good justification for him to play similarly for Barca!
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and he's been crap in it for Brazil. Not a good justification for him to play similarly for Barca!
True, but I didn't rate Barca as the sort of team to give way to tactical limitations
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Is Rijkaard staying on then? I recall talk of him taking a break after the end of the season just gone.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:28 AM   the FC Barcelona thread - 2007/2008 Post #87
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Is Rijkaard staying on then? I recall talk of him taking a break after the end of the season just gone.
From what I've read (especially in Laporta's press conference reflecting on the past season) he's staying. And I think most Barça fans would want him to.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:34 AM   the FC Barcelona thread - 2007/2008 Post #88
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Most of you put Toure in the starting line-up, but I'm not so sure he will be a number one pick right from the beginning. He still has a lot to prove and Edmilson is someone you can always trust upon.

I wouldn't be to surprised to see another (defensive) midfielder comming in though.
I'd like to see De Rossi signed actually. Young, lots of potential and already a very steady midfielder. He can be a bit agressive at times but that's something this Barça squad needs.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:21 AM   the FC Barcelona thread - 2007/2008 Post #89
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Originally posted by RubenJ:
Most of you put Toure in the starting line-up, but I'm not so sure he will be a number one pick right from the beginning. He still has a lot to prove and Edmilson is someone you can always trust upon.

I wouldn't be to surprised to see another (defensive) midfielder comming in though.
I'd like to see De Rossi signed actually. Young, lots of potential and already a very steady midfielder. He can be a bit agressive at times but that's something this Barça squad needs.
It’s good. I want the punks (Poulsen and De Rossi) in the team.

Unfortunately, Roma don’t want to sell De Rossi. :thdn:

Edm*lson is finished (if a club interested in him is reading it, it’s not true).

I have barely seen Touré at Monaco and just twice at Olympiakos (in the CL) and he only played well against Real Madrid “B”. From what I have seen he is not a DM.

I wanted Lucas from Grêmio, cheaper and arguably much better.
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The system won’t change because Johan Cruyff is the “official” advisor of the club

Yovan, I don't know where are you from, I take you aren't spanish if you say that.

Cruyff is a HUGE influence in anything that goes in at FC Barcelona. Only a fool would deny that.

But he doesn't have a call, at all on what ,or how are, things to be done.

Had him had such a voice and power, this disgraceful season would've never happened, for he has been warning about what has just happened for months. And noone paid him attention (and if anyone did, its damned sure,whoever he is, did nothing to solve the things).

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but just remember one thing, we signed Ronaldinho to play in the middle (AMC), behind the striker and the wingers. The team (a weaker one) was underperforming and we changed the formation (from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3).
In all fairness, Yovan, when Ronaldinho was signed noone knew where he would play. Not even Rijkaard, for he never asked for him in the first place. Ronaldinho was a last-resort signing from Laporta, for he had promised in the election run to bring Beckham and Beckham signed for Real Madrid. He needed a huge signing so people would forget about beckham and he (and Rosell) single-handedly brought Ronaldinho.

Some months into Rijkaard's first season, he reportedly said he had no idea where to put ronaldinho in his team, for he fit nowhere. I don't know if it was because Rijkaard knowledge of the game, by sheer luck or by divine providence he tried the 4-3-3 out of pure desperation (he was about to be kicked at the time) ,and the system, with Ronaldinho in the left wing won him 16 matches in a row in the league. From there onwards it was a military march.


Truth be told, Ronaldinho can play wherever you want him to play, as long as it is in an AM or forward position. In the center or in the wings, if he's fit, he will do wonders. But in my own opinion where he is most dangerous for Barcelona's playstile is where he plays: in the left cutting towards the middle. That's the place where he can best exploit both his pace and acceleration (when fit), his magnificent vision and great mid-range shot.

In the middle he's great because of his milimeter-accurate passes and amazing vision, but I still think he's better at the wing...

of course, when phisically fit.

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Ronaldinho was crap, a joke, a disgrace. THAT Ronaldinho isn’t not close to Eto’o, Messi and Henry.
with all due respect, since ronaldinho scored his amazing goal versus Sevilla (after leaving two defenders on the dust in a 40m race at full pace and shotting a 35meter missile that hit the bar and went in like a thunder), onwards, he was pure class. In fact, his class and quality was the ONLY and ONE thing saving barcelona's face in that first round of the spanish league, even while Rijkaard had problems finding the best spot for him in his team.

If you recall the times, you might remember when he got injured for 2-3 months. He lost, between others, the Camp Nou match against Barcelona. The team, at the time was a disgrace. Ronaldinho was not. Certainly was not the ronaldinho we saw next two seasons in a row, but he was simply impressive.

And then in the 4-3-3 system he simply set the Spanish league ablaze. Noone talked about anything else. I know what I'm talking about...in my old laptop I had almost every match compilation posted in the ronaldiweb.com website, and I can tell you, in EACH and EVERY of the matches ronaldinho was pure class.

He won the FIFA World Player after his 1st season in Barcelona, yovan. And got Bronze ball, winning NO TITLES. If that says nothing about his tremendous performance in his first season, nothing will.

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Ronaldinho and Eto’o aren’t friends (it doesn’t make them enemies). Eto’o only had a friend at Barça and it was Gerard.
depends on what you call friend. They aren't the closest buddies in the world for sure. But Ronaldinho and Eto'o are buddies and have a pretty good relationship. With storms now and then, but thats what both say and that's what it seems each time they are seen together, may it be on the pitch or in a training session. So either they are actually friends, or they both deserve an Oscar for the best performance.


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PS: Henry is NOT Larsson. He signed for Barça to play, not to be the 4th forward.
He won't be Larsson. Larsson played relatively little. Henry will get a lot of time. But won't be a first team player such as Ronaldinho and (initially) eto'o are. Ronaldinho is definitely not going to the bench ,ever, I can guarantee you that, and being Eto'o as he is, if he is "benched" with some regularity we will have a storm noone wants at Barcelona.

So Messi/Henry will be the deal. Now and then will be Eto'o/Henry. But ronaldinho is not losing his first team spot, that's for sure, and Eto'o's not going to the bench for many matches, that's ALSO for sure, unless Rijkaard wants to shoot his own feet. And I bet he doesn't want to.


Lubricated Crisp Packet:

the line up you give is not gonna happen. Barcelona's two "up" midfielders are just playmakers with some freedom when on attack, with serious defensive missions to comply when on the defensive. You're just putting Ronaldinho where deco usually plays. Deco is immense (not as much this years as previous ones, but still) in defensive duties because of his tactical intelligence, good pression, great resistance, and his smart tactical faults. And he's a good stealer too.

Ronaldinho has nothing of those. And those skills are an absolutely MUST for the midfielders in the 4-3-3 system to work.



Chrissybabe:

he's staying. For certain. There were some doubts about it after Eto'o's "show" back in March (I think it was, march) where a sad misunderstanding and lack of comunication between the chairmanship, Rijkaard, Eto'o and the press caused nothing short of a major earthquake at barcelona's dressroom. Back then Laporta's actions were full of good will but (I guess without wanting it) he blewed it. Rijkaard's ascendancy over the team could have very well been lost because Laporta's interference seriously eroded it. Fortunately the team was smart enough to solve the things internally and Laporta backed up just in time. But Rijkaard got really ****ed off (and with all the reason in the world)

things calmed down a lot after that, and I think the misunderstanding was solved between all the levels of the club, for the most part (not so much within the dressroom itself, tho). I guess Laporta apologized or something, for Rijkaard, just a week later, confirmed he was staying.

and so he is.



Rubenj:

Edmilson has been disastrous this year. I don't know the reasons but really he has been terrible, and has been the cause of more than one defeat (or two..or three).

Anyway, you can't trust on edmilson, not at least until november (the soonest). He went through knee surgery (again) last week and he'll be off for 4-6 months. And then he has to get fit again. By that time Toure will have confirmed itself as a worthy first team player (and so Edmilson will really have it hard to get first team football), or not...and then again, if he has not proven himself, we'll see who's playing there, and how, before thinking Edmilson will be an option again.


And yeah, De Rossi is a wonderful player. But so far Barcelona has spent 36 Million € in signings and chivu and Abidal will be a further 25-to-28 M € bringing the total to 64 M €. That's not exactly what I would call "nonsense".

De rossi would be VERY expensive to buy...and then again there are other places where the team is quite more lacking after bringing toure. Such as the right back.

Quite frankly I think Henry's signing for Barcelona is not as good as it can seem at first glance. He's an amazing player ,but those 24M € could've (And should've IMHO) been better invested elsewhere.
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