retired_dots7337

Id rather them fix the match engine so we can have a decent game before they try to become more "creative".

You cant build on a game until you have a steady enough platform or infrastructure if you will, to support it.

Id rather SI spent 6 months extra on the game and got it right rather rush it out, just to beat CM to the incredible gullible market.

trotamundos

I expected more than "I can't believe you need a patch to play it properly" You've had to for years with the SI games. I find it dissapointing that it's still the case with SI. Not that it needs a patch, patches have been the norm for ages. But more that the game seems so average out of the box.

Stasis is a very good word for it tbh James.

retired_musiclova31

hence my point in the otf thread that a complete rewrite is (over)due.

ter laughed.

retired_shean

I have to say, i'm enjoying FM08 endlessly more than I did FM07, seems greater than the sum of the features added.

Although, it would be nice to have known when the beta was updated, could create a some trouble for network games.

retired_therob

Yes, that was one hell of a faux-pas, wasn't it? What become of it? An apology from SI to the person in question? Is the thead still alive? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Miles claimed that he never accused the person of piracy (even though a common-sense reading of the thread would suggest he did, and even if he didn't he unfairly accused someone of piracy). Then the thread was just locked, supposedly at the agreement of the opening poster. Might also be to do with the fact that the whole thing was massively embarassing for SI.

retired_therob

hence my point in the otf thread that a complete rewrite is (over)due.

ter laughed. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Can't really blame them when everyone says that 01/02 is the best game ever, and that was the 4th (?) iteration of CM3.

retired_hvporter

I have found it reasonably easy to play out of the box and relatively bug-free. But then you have to factor your experience of gaming against mine (only ever buy CM/FM, only play in half-terms, weekends, for a couple of hours a day at most).

For the below-average games punter like myself, it is a lot easier to get into than previous versions have been. But that's not to say it isn't error-free.

And am I the only one in thinking that if it was any other business on any other communication forum, Miles would have had to at least offer a formal, public apology?

retired_eneko5613

I have found it reasonably easy to play out of the box and relatively bug-free. But then you have to factor your experience of gaming against mine (only ever buy CM/FM, only play in half-terms, weekends, for a couple of hours a day at most).

For the below-average games punter like myself, it is a lot easier to get into than previous versions have been. But that's not to say it isn't error-free.

And am I the only one in thinking that if it was any other business on any other communication forum, Miles would have had to at least offer a formal, public apology? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I think I probably play even less of the game than you (for comparison - I didn't pick up FM2005 until after the first patch, and only ever had one save which got to it's 6th season. FM2006 I picked up after the 2nd patch, and had one save although this actually got through 10 seasons. But that was because I never seriously played FM2007 at all).

I've got through one season on FM2008 so far. The first half of the season was irritating, with some of the well publicised bugs rearing their heads, but at least I felt in control of the gaming experience. I was confident in my signings, could see my tactics taking affect and could actually win games. After applying the beta patch, all my players were suddenly rubbish (according to ass man and coaches), tactical changes made no difference at all (even going to the extremes of the sliders for passing, mentality etc) and I felt completely out of control.

FM2008 is now back on the shelf, and won't come out again until either a patch is proven to be stable, or the December/January research exercise comes round. Whichever happens first.

It's a good job I didn't pay for this game, otherwise I think I'd be a little hacked off at the moment.

retired_txanya

SI have set themselves a standard for customer care over the past however many years it's been, and that standard has been much higher than other manufacturers, but they now seem to want to move away from that in favour of generating as many sales as possible.

retired_justin05

Think SI are just in a difficult situation where they have to keep putting new features into the game to justify the yearly updates and stop them being seen as no more than a data update and not having enough time in between to get those features working correctly. Being a business sales are the only real measure of success and I'm pretty sure the people complaining here only account for a small percentage of their sales and get treated accordingly.