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11-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #41 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by LFCfan:
It's personal choice.
If someone doesn't want a transfusion, it's their right to refuse it.
| Agreed. Like if someone doesn't want a baby it's their right to refuse it.
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11-05-2007, 02:26 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #42 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by Herman Bloom:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Helarxe:
This news is so sad - after all, it's still a net increase of +1 Jehova's Witness in the world. :***(
| Doubt it when the religion is the reason she's dead. Can't see the kids reacting all that well to it. Even if they take RH's point and accept she died for her beliefs, I'd imagine they would want to ensure that their own kids grew up with their mother around them. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Possibly, but it's hard to assert confidently. Psychology is complicated. Depending on how they're raised, they may become violently fanatic as denial to their mother dying senselessly.
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11-05-2007, 02:33 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #43 | | Registered User
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Well maybe yeah. But I'd always like to think that the world isn't full of complete idiots. If they are bright kids, they'll not react like that.
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11-05-2007, 02:39 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #44 | | Newb
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New guidelines being drawn up by the General Medical Council are likely to stress that when a patient's capacity to decide is compromised, and refusal of treatment may place them at risk, "it may be in their best interests to override that refusal".
But it will also restate that a "competent" patient's decision to refuse treatment is their right, and there is nothing to suggest that Emma Gough, the mother of the twins, was not in a sound state of mind when she signed that form.
| I’d suggest that a ridiculously illogical set of religious beliefs reduces ones competence to make a sensible decision. In a country that doesn’t except euthanasia, a right to religious freedom shouldn’t extend to the right to effective suicide by god.
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11-05-2007, 03:21 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #45 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by poyplemonkeys:
Would she have had a transfusion from another JW?
| what i was thinking tbh
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11-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #46 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by Herman Bloom:
Well maybe yeah. But I'd always like to think that the world isn't full of complete idiots.
| Kind of flies in the face of the evidence, that view.
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11-05-2007, 03:29 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #47 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by cms186:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by poyplemonkeys:
Would she have had a transfusion from another JW?
| what i was thinking tbh </BLOCKQUOTE>
No, it's like Blood is sacred and your own. Regardless of what faith a donor is, doesn't matter. It's not just human blood either, they can't eat black pudding (which is really really silly when you think about it).
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11-05-2007, 03:30 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #48 | | Newb
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Originally posted by James07?:
<BLOCKQUOTE>New guidelines being drawn up by the General Medical Council are likely to stress that when a patient's capacity to decide is compromised, and refusal of treatment may place them at risk, "it may be in their best interests to override that refusal".
But it will also restate that a "competent" patient's decision to refuse treatment is their right, and there is nothing to suggest that Emma Gough, the mother of the twins, was not in a sound state of mind when she signed that form.
| I’d suggest that a ridiculously illogical set of religious beliefs reduces ones competence to make a sensible decision. In a country that doesn’t except euthanasia, a right to religious freedom shouldn’t extend to the right to effective suicide by god. </BLOCKQUOTE>was just waiting for someone to post something like this.
don't care what you think or don't think about other people's beliefs, it's not your place to tell them how to behave as long as their behavior does not violate any major laws.
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11-05-2007, 03:39 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #49 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by Andy Jordan:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by James07?:
<BLOCKQUOTE>New guidelines being drawn up by the General Medical Council are likely to stress that when a patient's capacity to decide is compromised, and refusal of treatment may place them at risk, "it may be in their best interests to override that refusal".
But it will also restate that a "competent" patient's decision to refuse treatment is their right, and there is nothing to suggest that Emma Gough, the mother of the twins, was not in a sound state of mind when she signed that form.
| I’d suggest that a ridiculously illogical set of religious beliefs reduces ones competence to make a sensible decision. In a country that doesn’t except euthanasia, a right to religious freedom shouldn’t extend to the right to effective suicide by god. </BLOCKQUOTE>was just waiting for someone to post something like this.
don't care what you think or don't think about other people's beliefs, it's not your place to tell them how to behave as long as their behavior does not violate any major laws. </BLOCKQUOTE>
So abandoning your kids is fine as long as you can dress it up as freedom of religious expression?
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11-05-2007, 03:45 PM
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Mother dies after refusing blood Post #50 | | Registered User
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I feel so sory for her kids and just imagine all the people who are upset and sad that she's dead. i couldn't do that to the people i cared about.Suicide imho.
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