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Old 11-08-2007, 12:00 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #1
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From the rules I understand that if a defender is intentionally passing the ball back to the goalkeeper using his feet, and the goalkeeper uses his hands on the ball, it's deemed a back pass and an indirect free-kick is given.

I also thought that a player using tricks or anything out of the ordinary to circumvent the rule, such as flicking the ball up and heading it back to the 'keeper, would also be punished with a back pass, but I remember Bowyer doing this recently and the referee did nothing about it. Am I wrong with that part of the rule or was the referee?

Another question. If a defender just passes the ball back to the goalkeeper, quite clearly deliberately, but misplaces the pass and it's going into the bottom corner, so the goalkeeper dives and tips it around the post. That's a backpass right? So does the goalkeeper get sent off? I actually don't know if he would or not so does anyone know for sure? Should he get sent off?

I think it should be a red card really. He's deliberately committed a foul in order to prevent a certain goal. I can't see what the difference in net result is between this and a player who is through on an open goal getting a trip from behind to prevent the goal. The latter would always result in a red card, so I think the former should too.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:02 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #2
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Didnt Seaman once pick up a ball from a back pass becuase a attacker was coming in and could have scored? He only got booked for that.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:03 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #3
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Anything but a blatant pass being picked up seems to be ignored, generally. Tackles prodded back to the keeper, dubious deflections and anything that requires a save all go unpunished.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:16 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #4
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Originally posted by poyplemonkeys:
I also thought that a player using tricks or anything out of the ordinary to circumvent the rule, such as flicking the ball up and heading it back to the 'keeper, would also be punished with a back pass, but I remember Bowyer doing this recently and the referee did nothing about it. Am I wrong with that part of the rule or was the referee?
That should be a foul.



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Another question. If a defender just passes the ball back to the goalkeeper, quite clearly deliberately, but misplaces the pass and it's going into the bottom corner, so the goalkeeper dives and tips it around the post. That's a backpass right? So does the goalkeeper get sent off? I actually don't know if he would or not so does anyone know for sure? Should he get sent off?
IMO it should be allowed as the rule says "deliberately kicked to him" and a ball that the GK needs to dive to get isn't "kicked to him" no matter how much it was intended to be.



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Anything but a blatant pass being picked up seems to be ignored, generally.
Not surprising as it has to be blatant to be an offence...
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:32 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #5
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Ayr lost a goal at the weekend from one of these.

Defender miscontrolled the ball and it ran past him, keeper runs over, touches the ball into the area and picks it up. Ref gives indirect free kick, which is crossed in and results in a goal.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:35 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #6
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From the rules I understand that if a defender is intentionally passing the ball back to the goalkeeper using his feet, and the goalkeeper uses his hands on the ball, it's deemed a back pass and an indirect free-kick is given.
The keeper can use his hands to palm the ball away, he just can't pick the ball up.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:16 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #7
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The keeper can use his hands to palm the ball away, he just can't pick the ball up.
Nope. The rule says "touches the ball with his hands" so a block/parry is just as wrong as picking it up.
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Defender miscontrolled the ball and it ran past him, keeper runs over, touches the ball into the area and picks it up. Ref gives indirect free kick, which is crossed in and results in a goal.
Have to see it to be sure but from what you said it looks like the ref fecked up.
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its a free kick, not a sending off offence though?
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:18 PM   Clarification on the Backpass Rule Post #10
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mr Rubber Gloves:
The keeper can use his hands to palm the ball away, he just can't pick the ball up.
Nope. The rule says "touches the ball with his hands" so a block/parry is just as wrong as picking it up. </BLOCKQUOTE>

So if the ball is on it's way into the goal the keeper can't stop it with his hands then? Care to post a link to this rule?
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