[retired_jacquii]

is that from when they fired at megs or Blackout? even if its from the megs battle you could still argue that Starscream let them through since he raped the rest of the jets.

[trotamundos]

Don't think Bay or the writers are anywhere near clever enough for that, unfortunately.

[retired_civilian888]

I got it from a thread over on tfw2005, so just assumed it was when they fired at Megatron

[retired_darom]

***THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS***

Okay, so it’s by no means perfect but Bay & co. still exceeded all my expectations as far as delivering a very good TF film.

Other than some extended periods of fleshling vs. TF action that I didn't think needed to be focused on as much (primarily Scorponok vs. the US army); a few "comedy moments" that I just didn’t think were funny (Bumblebee "****ing" on the guy from Sector 7 - by the way, worst character in it for me – the guy not BB); and a couple of bits where a different shot choice would have been better and more characterisation welcome (the "one shall stand, one shall fall" bit & other than the allusions to the Megatron/Starscream relationship zip for pretty much all the other Decepticons); it still was, for me at least, well delivered.

Gotta say that I didn't care for the line towards the end in which Prime alluded to Megatron as his brother. That, IMO, was as bad a choice as anything in the movie. Its always been about ideology between the two, no need to make it familial.

That said I thought the numerous homages to the original TV series and cartoon were welcome (both verbal and visual), and there was a lot more deference to G1 than I expected overall. As for the new stuff, despite how little he was in it, and despite the fact that there wasn't a really full on Prime vs. Megatron scene (next movie please), in the context of the film its easier to rationalise his new design and I thought he did convey real and utter menace (Weaving even sounded pretty much like Welker in places as well) and he and Bumblebee in particular looked especially badass.

Blackout was cool as well, but like I said above, its a pity that they're essentially nothing but cannon-fodder in the final analysis. I am however willing to accept that element to an extent though because 1 - other than Megs and Screamer they don't have any G1 connection in truth and so without any back-story (i.e. X amount of cartoons to establish them) they don't really need to be anything other than killing machines. They did better with the Autobots because, obviously bar Jazz, they need them to stick around for a while to deal with what will almost inevitably be the return of Megs and Screamer plus a few choice others.

Anyway, all in all pretty happy and accepting of the weaker elements because there was so much I could connect and be impressed with.

[retired_sera]

I saw it about a week ago. Without knowing too much about the original Transformers, I wasn't entirely sure at what level the comedy and emotion was at in the cartoons. Well, the comedy and emotion in this film wasn't great.

But just the pure adrenaline of seeing huge robots trying to smash each other was enjoyable. I got massively confused in the fight scenes, as everyone seems to have been, because I couldn't discern which robot was which.

The part when Optimus Prime breaks the head off of that robot...that was when I was sold on him.

[retired_susan mcdonald]

i can't remember the bit prime did that I was waaaaaaay too close the screen

[retired_civilian888]

What!! It was the best part of the film

[retired_susan mcdonald]

was it at the end? oh I remember now, was it when prime was on his own and stuff?

[trotamundos]

Don't actually believe Mikey saw the film. Clearly making all this stuff up.

[retired_civilian888]

He was fighting Bonecrusher who was the one on the motorway who smashed who smashed into the coach