retired_jjjvassnc

whs. If it's not in writing with your signature with it, then it basically tough luck for him imo.

shannon2007

Perhaps the line manager thought he didn't need to tell you twice? He took you into his office, explained that the new guy was starting and when they did your shifts would change. New guy started, you should have assumed your shift had changed, it's work not school you don't get your hand held all the way.

Basically, whilst perhaps he should have reminded you, it doesn't look very good for you that you can't remember a simple agreement and feel the need to wait until told again. You should simply tell him it's a misunderstanding and appologize.

retired_komar

I told him it was a mis understanding and said sorry. That was one of my first lines in the phonecall.

The thing is ive had about 7 jobs from the ages of 16-22 a couple of them for long periods of time. I have NEVER had a problem like this before thats why i feel so assured that I'm in the right.


Anyway thanks again for the help. I tried to ring a couple of times today but no reply. I wasnt going to waste anymore of my weekend thinking about my job.


So do people think i should go in sunday night? thats what i thought my shifts were before i got the phonecall. But he did mention that im not in till tuesday because sunday and monday are my new nights off.

retired_tanuja

Personally?

I'd walk in, go right up to him and give him the bird within an inch of his nose. I'd then say "so you honestly think that me, a ****ing person with much more on my plate than a crummy supermarket job would give two ****s about you and your ****ing rota? Get a life you ****ing busy body".

And then walk out feeling all smug and get a job at Sainsburys instead.

It's you r year out FFS and you're working in a supermarket - it's not your career...

retired_sisa___

They can do very little.

Disciplinary procedures fall apart in retail all the time due to lack of evidence, if you wern't given enough warning about a shift change in advance, in writing, then it becomes your word against a manager, and through proper hearings they will back down and give you something lame like a file note.

Stand your ground.

retired_sisa___

oh and if you're sticking by your original hours, you should probably stick by your original days off aswell, either that or give them a bell tomorrow and ask them what they'd like you to do.

If they ask anything of you that you don't fancy (e.g. you want sunday off) say that from next week you're ok to do those shifts but due to the short notice given you cannot work sunday, if they ask why, say you have plans, if they ask why again just tell them that's your business.

Meanwhile think that in a years time you'll be out of this ****.

retired_komar

Thanks again.


I'm going to give them a call later this morning. Hopefully someone will answer this time. If they don't i'll just go in as usual. I think if I say everything face to face they will realise I'm not backing down.


In regards to the contract issue, I have never signed one but I'm supposedly on a 12 week trial contract. But the actual store manager said after 2 weeks that I was doing great and it would be made permanent. Then just last week I mentioned it to him and he said that contracts are rarely printed out let alone signed.

But surely my lack of contract puts me at a disadvantage.

Also I know a few of you have told me to walk out etc etc, but I'm living at home trying to save some money to go travelling and being sacked/quitting would make family life a lot harder. Mainly because the deal I have with my parents is that I'm only staying there to save up etc. By not working it breaks the deal so to speak.


To be honest I think if I walk in there adamant that I was never told about the change and stick to my story then there is nothing they can do.


So for the record when I eventually have a meeting if it is JUST with the line manager in question should I request another manager. Also to note both payslips ive had have taken "union" deductions. Thats without my say so.

Once again thanks for the positive response.

retired_kris10nicole

If you're on a 12 week trial, start looking for a new job. They won't need any reason to can you, and will almost certainly back the manager, even assuming he's not the one who directly makes the decision. Not fair, but quite likely.

Having said that, as others have said, you're on a year out. Regardless of the agreement you have with your parents, there should be no reason to be out of work. There's loads of jobs out there at the lower end of the market, that you wouldn't want as a career but shouldn't bother you doing for less than a year.

retired_jshendel

When i started my job at the NHS, i had to opt out of the Union. I think they automatically sign you up to the union unless you tell them otherwise

retired_audberry

Do you not have Rosters on display to tell you when you're working? I'd be very surprised if not. As for your shifts changing, i'd again be surprised if your 'contract' (Which, yes, you don't really have) doesn't allow for fully flexible working hours, supermarkets and retailers in general very rarely pin someone down to fixed times as it makes covering sickness and leave harder.

The Union payments are a strange one, i'd not think that a massive retail company like Tesco would automatically put you into a Union as they generally hate people knowing their rights, though I may be wrong. If you want real help on this my advice would be to find out what union you've made them payments to and ask them for help, it's what they are there for.