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Old 11-15-2007, 02:53 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #21
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San, I think the IRL had their first race on a proper track this year, and have two? more scheduled for next yea.

Champcar's better than IRL imo, and both are way ahead of Nascar.

And trying to compare any of them to F1 (or GP2, or F3, or Formula BMW or Formula Vee etc) is laughable.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:02 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #22
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IRL has been racing on street circuits and road courses for a few years now, since 2004 or 2005 iirc, it's basically becoming what it said it wouldnt before they split from CCWS.

Eitherway both are dying a slow death unless they merge tbh.

Nascar is just god awful, but it appeals to the lowest common dominater in the states etc.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:21 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #23
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Both are as boring as watching paint dry. Nascar is endless circles while F1 might as well just have time trials, what with how little passing there actually is.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:22 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #24
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:23 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #25
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NASCAR appears to be on its way down anyway. TV ratings are flat or falling. Empty seats are beginning to appear where they weren't before. It appears its actually reached the point where it has actually gotten too corporate. I could expand on this further, but I don't think there's any interest here.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:32 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #26
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Days of Thunder!
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:38 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #27
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Well if the games of both are anything to go by then no, NASCAR is not better than F1.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:44 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #28
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It's not just Montoya & Villeneuve switching over either.

Dario Franchitti (Scot & winner of this years Indy 500) has gone to NASCAR, so that will undoubtedly cue a bit more interest in some of the papers over here if a Brit starts doing well.

Scott Speed (ex-Red Bull Racing) is also in NASCAR, and other top American single seater drivers like Sam Hornish and AJ Allmendinger (ok so the last one only really 'top' if you follow IRL/CCWS).

Lots more money in stock cars in the US now, as Emperor J says it's all begining to go very corporate - first Toyota become the first non-US manufacturer and then Red Bull joined in a big way.

Doesn't help when IRL & Champcar are gradually becoming weaker & weaker. There really is no winner, it'll just be whichever dies second. Somebody needs to bang some heads together and make one strong North American single seater championship, I mean why ffs are Champ Cars racing at Jerez?!?!
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:55 PM   NASCAR > F1 ? Post #29
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Used to be this track on Gran Turismo which was an oval and on one of the races you had to do something stupid like a million laps so in the end I set up a rig that just pulled the car to the right constantly and kept the accelerator down. The car crashed into the right hand wall obviously but I had 1000bhp so it made no difference and when I woke up in the morning I'd have my trophy. That's what NASCAR reminds me of.
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Was the Suzuki Escudo iirc Cranker. I set up one of the missus hairbands to hold the analogue stick up and right and leave it to soak for an hour and a half. Would easily win the race and you got like 100000 quid for it.
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