Aricia

I understood at first, but I am honestly stunned that they have not got the patch ready yet. Just how many faults are in this game?

retired_2symonds

You are making it sound as if "big bad SEGA" are forcing us to do stuff or standing around cracking whips.

I don't know why you are so shocked that the game was out in mid-October either as over the years that has been round about when it has been released.

retired_shootnformygoal

I would rather have chosen to get a fully working game in December instead of a seriously bugged game in October. It doesn't really matter if you release the game in October or December, it's unplayable until we get the full patch.

retired_recca

Out of interest, how regular are the worst of these issues? I've only played international management so far and therefore haven't really noticed any of them.

retired_nsample

Matt- neither of my last 2 posts were criticising the testers (Beta or in house ) or their professionalism in any way- I just asked the question if the teasting and QA had kept pace with the growth of the game and why, if the testers have most of the bugs flagged pre-release, do they always ask for another save game.

retired_Lisaharr

I can't believe people are still creating threads like this one.

It has repeatedly been said that the closing down bug was picked up by testers as soon as they had received the build it was introduced in, however by the time it was reported it was too late to go into the gold code, as fixing it would have had knock-on effects which wouldn't have been fixable in 2 minutes.


Do you guys honestly believe such a blatant obvious issue was not spotted by people that do nothing else when testing the beta than to look for exactly these issues?

It's not like we download the beta and start fun career games with it. It wouldn't even be possible as everytime you get a new build you have to start a new game, so it's pointless.

Please stop blaming the testers. And stop moaning.

I'm fairly confident that 90% of the people crying about it here, wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't pointed out as an SI by SI.

Everyone is just jumping on the moan-bandwagon as there seems to be some kind of pleasure to be had out of moaning which I can't seem to grasp.

leanwitit

Kriss / Matt - Unfortunately though selected for testing last year the debacle put paid to that.

I'm known in a small way to Marc Duffy with document reviews for a few releases of the game manual in past years, its clearly of a much higher standard these days.

I've documented my job, my experience in testing is not much short of 20 years. If I can help in future releases I'd be glad to, if not I'm still happy to play and enjoy this game as I have done with every release since the Amiga days (CM4 was slightly less enjoyable)

We all wait for the patch with enthuisiasm and also with aprreciation of SI's and Sega's efforts in making this a good game. For some this results in feisty posts but ultimately we all want the same thing FM to be working perfectly so that ultimate enjoyment can be had

I think a good idea would be to dig out the link from last year when people detailed what sort of thing they did when playing FM e.g. people dressing up in suits when reaching a cup final etc, jumping round the room at 4am with a late goal and getting told off by a neighbour etc. That thread had me in tears at times and would ease some of the frustration if read / re-read - it was sooooooo funny. I'm sure Kriss can recall this one!

leanwitit

I should have said this thread will take peoples mind of the patch wait and restore some much needed fun here

Emm

At the risk of offending you, maybe that makes you a little naive .

I had to restart my first FM07 game because I encountered "the history bug". Actually, I didn;t have to restart, I CHOSE to restart. Others encountered it and it didn't bother them because it is a rather "cosmetic" issue, but one which affected the way I enjoy my game nevertheless.

I also had to restart FM06, (can't remember why now). So I have had to restart FM07 and FM06, (I also restarted FM05, but felt that was completely playable out of the box). So if I have had to restart my game after patches on each of the last 3 issues of FM, I woudl be naive to have expected anything else.

Did it stop be buying the game as early as I could? No.

Did it stop me starting a save that was designed to be a long term save? No.

Does it stop me getting frustrated when I encounter things that I wish weren't in the game? No.

So the option that I've had, that we all have, that in fact we have always had is that you can wait until the patch comes out and play the game in it's full glory.

My experiences have taught me that expecting to play a long term save from the off, with any recent release of FM, is pretty naive.

That's not really a pop at SI or or Sega, or even a pop at the naive people like myself who expect more despite our past experiences. It's really just an admission that this is the status quo in this area and we should maybe learn to accept it.

That sounds a little defeatist, (maybe even a lot defeatist), but getting frustrated at finding serious bugs in the game, (as I have done), seems silly in retrospect, when if you asked me a month ago what I hexpected from FM08, well I would have probably got it pretty right.

I would and did anticipate that my GK getting sent off would still not be a key highlight.

I would have said that there would be at least 1 issue with the match engine that everyone would have beenclamouring about.

I would have said that there would still be instances of GK's behaving like outfield players and appearing up the field at the worst possible moment.

I would have said that there would be issues with the finances in some league.

I would have said that the LLM game would be affected by something like reputation, (it is actually confidence).

So I guess what I'm trying to say is, SI have delivered a little below par in this one. They tried to fix something with the beta patch, (which we all clamoured for remember), and this in turn probably made the game worse and not better, but imagine the state of this forum if they hadn't even tried to fix it .

Maybe it's not the product that is the issue here, but our expectations.

Lasek808

Someone has told me that the final patch will be out today but i want to know if this is true and will it work with my save game. and if it doesn't i will be getting a refund.