retired_recca

I had a game where we lost 2-0 - 42 chances for us, 2 for the opposition. But then I've also won 4-0 from 4 shots.

Occasionally strange things happen, ho-hum.

retired_geoag01

Used to happen week in week out last season at Arsenal.

Arsenal would dominate games completely and end up drawing 1-1 with the opposition having one chance.

This happened against Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, Everton in the space of about 2 months.

They also lost to West Ham under the same circumstances. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not being funny mate, but i'd take a look back at those stats if i were you?.

I'm not saying Arsenal were'nt dominant in all those games, but not to the tune of the kind of dominance you are seeing in this game.

retired_nivea

Used to happen week in week out last season at Arsenal.

Arsenal would dominate games completely and end up drawing 1-1 with the opposition having one chance.

This happened against Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, Everton in the space of about 2 months.

They also lost to West Ham under the same circumstances. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not being funny mate, but i'd take a look back at those stats if i were you?.

I'm not saying Arsenal were'nt dominant in all those games, but not to the tune of the kind of dominance you are seeing in this game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I was there I dont need to look back.

Arsenal would have 15-20 attempts easily and the opposition would have no more than 2 and still score.

Im sure you would say that was a bug if in FM.

One other point, if this was happening in every FM match it would surely be happenign to me and Ive played 4 seasons and it certainly doesnt happen any mroe than Id expect.

retired_princess160

[LLM people look away, moderate tipping follows]

I'll claim here that having only one set tactic just has to be wrong.

Against vastly superior opposition you defend and pull people back. You tell your guys to defend deep, you tell them to hoof the ball out of the defense, look for the counter and stay behind the ball etc.

Against vastly inferior opposition you tell your guys to basically dribble the ball into the goal, get in their face etc.

Then teams can use wide or small formations, long ball, direct passing, close marking, line defending etc. all of which you need to react to.

Your team talks have an influence, the weather does, the pitch size and shape (as in water-logged, bumpy, devoid of grass and such. I know it's rectangular ), the number and mood of the fans, your team morale, the home advantage, heck, the number of influences on the result of a match is mind-boggling, all regardless of your players' ability.

You need to tweak your tactics from game to game and forget about being able to come up with a winning solution every time, even with exquisite player material at your disposal.

Could well be that the game exagerrates (sp?) this need for continuing tactics tweaking, that wouldn't surprise me at all. It does that with more aspects of the game. What team, for example, would change their team in key positions for many seasons in a row? Doesn't happen often IRL. It's normal in the game.

As for SI coding the game on purpose to make it ridiculously hard, that's just uninformed speculation IMO. How would you know? And it doesn't even seem likely, tbh. If anything, it's the other way around: we're no pro players/managers and still sometimes manage succesfully. (In my case: moderately succesfully. Once in a blue moon. LLM is the way :cool: )

Do you think you would be able to lead one of the EPL top four teams to a top four spot IRL? No way in hell. So why would you be so easily able to do so in the game? This is not just a mere game, it's a simulation.

Speaking of shot/goal ratio: seen Oranje-Luxemburg yesterday? 30-2 shots. Ended 1-0 and we can thank our good luck and Edwin van der Sar that the Luxemburg forwards managed to botch those two one-on-one situations that occurred in the dying minutes of the game.

How, exactly, a team made up of EPL/La Liga/Bundesliga/Eredivisie stars, led by some of the best players in the history of the game (off the pitch (van Basten) and on the pitch (Ruuuud)) playing a high tempo 4-2-4 against some amateurs, can not win more convincingly is anyones guess. Sh|t happens...

retired_geoag01

Used to happen week in week out last season at Arsenal.

Arsenal would dominate games completely and end up drawing 1-1 with the opposition having one chance.

This happened against Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, Everton in the space of about 2 months.

They also lost to West Ham under the same circumstances. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not being funny mate, but i'd take a look back at those stats if i were you?.

I'm not saying Arsenal were'nt dominant in all those games, but not to the tune of the kind of dominance you are seeing in this game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I was there I dont need to look back.

Arsenal would have 15-20 attempts easily and the opposition would have no more than 2 and still score.

Im sure you would say that was a bug if in FM.

One other point, if this was happening in every FM match it would surely be happenign to me and Ive played 4 seasons and it certainly doesnt happen any mroe than Id expect. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Remember first of all that i am making no definite claims until the Official Patch is released.

Arsenal's problem last season was that they put way too much impetus on Thierry Henry and when he did'nt play particularly well or was injured, Arsenal suffered because of it.

It seem's crazy but Arsenal are much better off without him, because they are now playing as a team and that has clearly showed so far this season!.

All Arsenal basically did last year was to try to WALK the ball into the back of the net, so all the opposition had to do was get 11 men behind the ball, up until the point where Arsenal would then have to take punts from distance which funnily enough usually ended with them scoring a goal.

Now if i was playing this way, i could totally understand why it was i was struggling, but i'm not.

Arsenal this year have taken a different approach and you will even see them playing direct at times, something you would NEVER have seen last season and this is why their new approach is working and if you just had a World Class Striker in your squad instead of Adebayor, there's no limit to the amount of success you can achieve?.

retired_dellydoolittle

I dont know if you noticed bur miles said that the game's got the beheviour to stop super tactics/ teams. it means smth like its harder to win 30 games in the row (even with arsenal), it also means that you're gonna loose some matches, even if you have out-shooten your opp by 25 shots. in 1 way I have to agree with you, but on the other hand it seems good, that game prevents super teams. I believe IRE. when Man U draws with Reading, the shot ratio is also much more on Devils side

what I also noticed most of you guys who are moaning on shot ratio, are playing with teams like arsenal, werder, inter, barcelona....all top clubs. after U won your league, champions leadue and cup (how many times this happened IRE??), then the game stops your winning marsh.
try to win the league with Wigan and no transfer funds...thats the chalenge.

retired_geoag01

I dont support Arsenal mate and only took the job on until the Official Patch is released.

If i'm struggling to score goals with Arsenal averaging 20 shots a match and 10 on target, imagine how much more frustrating it will be getting Wigan in a position where they are dominating every game they play, only to lose one after the other?.

No thanks!.

retired_dellydoolittle

bumface I wasnt refering to you.

or did I?

retired_fgooden

im with you op.. just lost 2 games.. got drawn.. on another bunch.. where my team dominates game.. best one was obviously

3 : 3 game .. where my team made like 18 goal attempts and opposition 3.. scored all.. oh 2 my goals were disallowed, cuz this offside system works genius... hit crossbar.. or take rebound when keeper punches it away or cant catch.. and you get offside..

whole bunch another game were opposition makes 5 attempts and beat me..

got best 2 strikers in league.. best goalkeeper

as i loan them and playing in low league ..


i wouldnt mind if its 5 games whole season like that.. but when its around 5 games all in row.. and you see your team drop dead in table.. its gets annoying as im reaching for promotion ..

timothyopiel345

I'm sorry, but I find this post to be really arrogant.

All the things listed above should have zero effect on a striker with high morale and high finishing and composure stats being clean through on a goalkeeper several times in a match.

World class players are consistently missing incredibly easy chances, and that shouldn't be the case.