TomO

The same thing is happening to me at Bayern after winning the league in 1st year.

Bayern 22 shots 15 on target P.S.G 2 shots 1 on target. Final score 1-1

Duisberg 3 shots 2 on target Bayern 18 shots 13 on target. Final score 2-2

I have at least 6 other games like this and am only up to 7th January.

retired_natalienew1212

no, you missed the point, its happening all the time, too me, and other players...

retired_samiam

That would indicate that a lot of people need to slightly tweak their tactics so instead of having a side that has a lot of shots on goal, they have a side that creates a small number of excellent chances which they are more likely to score from.

teebee

Tips for this then please squire?

retired_lruby217

Agreed. The author of this thread probably has all his players taking long shots, or he's probably giving them too much creative freedom. Often when a team is going through a bad patch of form, it's vital to ensure that a team is creating genuine chances.

The guys on the LLM forum will kill me for giving out advise but it's clearly needed here.

retired_samiam

Of course.

The best tip I can give you is to have a look in the Tactics forum, where there are a lot of posts from experienced tactic-creators which can help you to identify and solve this problem.

Some of their tactic ideas will help your team create better clear cut chances which you are more likely to score from, as opposed to just having a lot of unlikely-to-score-from shots.


If the only stats you look at about a game is "I had 50 shots, they had 3, and I lost 2-0, this game is rubbish", then you will be annoyed. But that doesn't show the whole story.

If you realised that your 50 shots were long range, but theirs were well worked tap-ins, would you be as annoyed?

Of course not. It's all about how good the chances you create are.

The Tactics forum is a great place for sorting out your formations and tactics and ensuring your team creates better chances.

retired_jonathannew1212

And why not? It does! Often when good sides get beaten by lesser sides you see stats like that. As for teams which are your equal, is it so inconceivable to imagine that their goalkeeper had a great game? Or that your strikers can't hit a cows arse with a banjo at the moment?

If it bothers you that much don't play the game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

i know these things happen irl i.e. israel russia earlier today but the stats speak for themselves and i have had the same thing happen to me, however i've never been in the winning team against a side who dominates to the extent as the screenshots above show.
and don't tell me not to play the game, we like constructive criticism not aggression

retired_w0lfpack1

Spot on.

I seriously think SI could help with this by including post-match commentary discussing it.

"On paper, Werder Bremen might seem to have dominated the match with 28 shots to their opponents' 5, but most of those were rushed half-chances taken from long range and tight angles."

As for "tips for this", see anything written by wwfan in the Tactics and Training Tips forum - he'll cover it much better than we can here in GQ, but the gist of it is "less long shots, less Attacking mentality, lower Tempo, more passing, especially more Through Balls."

In general, you want to encourage your guys to take that one last touch - whether controlling it for themselves, or passing to a teammate - which changes a "half-chance" into a "good chance" .. rather than just pulling the trigger as soon as they see a half-chance.

retired_samiam

It's likely you won't play against an AI team who have 50 shots on goal but don't score against you. That's because the majority of the AI managers, especially top class managers, are able to select the right tactic for their team.

So, it's not AI bias, it's simply AI intelligence. The AI doing what AI stands for, I guess.

It's your job as manager to create and use an effective tactic, coupled with formation and players, to counter act that intelligence and win the game. That's the point of being a manager, isn't it?

retired_samiam

Spot on.

I seriously think SI could help with this by including post-match commentary discussing it.

"On paper, Werder Bremen might seem to have dominated the match with 28 shots to their opponents' 5, but most of those were rushed half-chances taken from long range and tight angles."

As for "tips for this", see anything written by wwfan in the Tactics and Training Tips forum - he'll cover it much better than we can here in GQ, but the gist of it is "less long shots, less Attacking mentality, lower Tempo, more passing, especially more Through Balls."

In general, you want to encourage your guys to take that one last touch - whether controlling it for themselves, or passing to a teammate - which changes a "half-chance" into a "good chance" .. rather than just pulling the trigger as soon as they see a half-chance. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Could this actually be another thread where there's been a helpful and definitive answer to the original query? And no fights?

Doesn't happen very often in GQ. Perhaps times are changing! :-)