[Up_The_Terriers]

Originally posted by Starr_Man5:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by White Raven:
Balls. It's completely unrealistic. Maybe at a massive club like Barcleona, you might win trophies and the board is still not happy with your playing style - but Bradford?

In real life they would be praying to him for more. Their finances will have shot up, crowds much bigger - if they get in the Premiership it could financially transform the club. At a club like Bradford you grab at that chance, you don't ask the manager to "slow down". Get a grip.

This problem has been identified by many people playing the game. If you think about the amount of hours people are putting in setting up tactics etc., only for this to happen then it ruins everything. Why take another job if the same thing is going to happen? It's not exactly an incentive is it?

Agree fully.
There's no chance a club like Bradford would let a manager go for being TOO successful.
What a load of old nonsense.
Anybody who makes that claim is a pleb. (whatever that is) </BLOCKQUOTE>

First: "Pleb"... Short for plebian. Roman term for a normal citizen (ie: Man in the street).

Second, although I doubt it is an intended part of the game, you really need to do some research. Bradford's closest rivals did EXACTLY that.

They sacked the manager that got them into the championship (Divsion 1 at that time.... either 97 or 98 IIRC) and appointed Steve Bruce for no other reason than that plonker Barry Rubbery felt they needed a manager with a bigger reputation now they were playing at a higher level.

Biggest mistake any Huddersfield chairman ever made. Directly resulted in the club going into administration a couple of years later and nearly destroyed the club completely.

[Tony Dolby]

Seconded. Having single handedly transformed Macclesfield from Div 2 relegation certainties to Championship respectability, the board want to move in a different direction! Downwards probably. Oh, and the finances rose from £80k in the bank to over 3 million.

What board on earth would not offer an extension as soon as I got into the Championship, particularly as other clubs were offering me contract? They would then have sorted even if I did join someone else as they would get compensation.

P.S. my reputation is now 'Continental'!!!

[NeilUK]

[quote]Originally posted by No i'm not moaning! Its sucks:

Originally posted by JohnEFC:
I won 11 Euro Cups in a row and the board sacked me for being too greedy.

{/QUOTE]
To play eleven seasons since the release of the game you must have played every minute of every day!

[Tony Dolby]

PPS.

I have never expressed interest in other jobs.
Have turned down contracts worth ten times what I was getting from Macclesfied.

Players love me.

Board loves me. Said they were delighted when they offered me almost a million quid to spend on next season.

Then, BANG. I was outta there.

[White Raven]

Originally posted by Up_The_Terriers:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Starr_Man5:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by White Raven:
Balls. It's completely unrealistic. Maybe at a massive club like Barcleona, you might win trophies and the board is still not happy with your playing style - but Bradford?

In real life they would be praying to him for more. Their finances will have shot up, crowds much bigger - if they get in the Premiership it could financially transform the club. At a club like Bradford you grab at that chance, you don't ask the manager to "slow down". Get a grip.

This problem has been identified by many people playing the game. If you think about the amount of hours people are putting in setting up tactics etc., only for this to happen then it ruins everything. Why take another job if the same thing is going to happen? It's not exactly an incentive is it?

Agree fully.
There's no chance a club like Bradford would let a manager go for being TOO successful.
What a load of old nonsense.
Anybody who makes that claim is a pleb. (whatever that is) </BLOCKQUOTE>

First: "Pleb"... Short for plebian. Roman term for a normal citizen (ie: Man in the street).

Second, although I doubt it is an intended part of the game, you really need to do some research. Bradford's closest rivals did EXACTLY that.

They sacked the manager that got them into the championship (Divsion 1 at that time.... either 97 or 98 IIRC) and appointed Steve Bruce for no other reason than that plonker Barry Rubbery felt they needed a manager with a bigger reputation now they were playing at a higher level.

Biggest mistake any Huddersfield chairman ever made. Directly resulted in the club going into administration a couple of years later and nearly destroyed the club completely. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You conveniently 'forgot' to mention that there was a takeover in the midst of Jackson's reign.

This was mentioned above as a possible reason for sacking a manager - but as this was not the reason the Bradford manager in relation to this thread was sacked, your point is invalid.

[Tal_Hides]

Originally posted by Up_The_Terriers:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Starr_Man5:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by White Raven:
Balls. It's completely unrealistic. Maybe at a massive club like Barcleona, you might win trophies and the board is still not happy with your playing style - but Bradford?

In real life they would be praying to him for more. Their finances will have shot up, crowds much bigger - if they get in the Premiership it could financially transform the club. At a club like Bradford you grab at that chance, you don't ask the manager to "slow down". Get a grip.

This problem has been identified by many people playing the game. If you think about the amount of hours people are putting in setting up tactics etc., only for this to happen then it ruins everything. Why take another job if the same thing is going to happen? It's not exactly an incentive is it?

Agree fully.
There's no chance a club like Bradford would let a manager go for being TOO successful.
What a load of old nonsense.
Anybody who makes that claim is a pleb. (whatever that is) </BLOCKQUOTE>

First: "Pleb"... Short for plebian. Roman term for a normal citizen (ie: Man in the street).

Second, although I doubt it is an intended part of the game, you really need to do some research. Bradford's closest rivals did EXACTLY that.

They sacked the manager that got them into the championship (Divsion 1 at that time.... either 97 or 98 IIRC) and appointed Steve Bruce for no other reason than that plonker Barry Rubbery felt they needed a manager with a bigger reputation now they were playing at a higher level.

Biggest mistake any Huddersfield chairman ever made. Directly resulted in the club going into administration a couple of years later and nearly destroyed the club completely. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Completely different scenario actually. Peter Jackson was sacked at Huddersfield because a NEW chairman came in, with money, and felt that Jackson didn't have the experience to spend that money. As I suggested in my earlier post, if there have been major changes in the board, or finances have been handled badly then yes a successful manager wouldn't have his contract renewed. But the same board / chairman that appointed a manager wouldn't then allow him to leave because he's done what was asked of him!

[Up_The_Terriers]

My apologies. I got my dates mixed up. The manager I was thinking of was Brian Horton (who got Huddersfield promoted). For some reason I was thinking that he came after Peter Jackson and was directly replaced by Bruce.

Sorry about that.

[r0x0r]

Originally posted by White Raven:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by olivne:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TonkaPVFC:
Why is this unrealistic?
You haven't been sacked, you just haven't been given a new contract. Perhaps they thought the club was moving forward to quickly under your guidance and felt they would prefer someone who would give more steady progress.
There are cases in real life where managers are sacked despite exceeding board expectations.

I agree.
Also, the board might believe that you taken the club as far as you can (based on your reputation), & that their stature has risen enough to atract a manager of a higher quality (club reputation) </BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't believe any normal club would do this until you start faltering. Especially as he is only in the Championship, there is no requirement for such a reaction. Again, this displays a lack of intelligents in the AI. This should have been focused on a lot more in this game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Then look at Mickey Adams. Sacked for getting Fulham promoted to division 2...

[Tickers]

Originally posted by r0x0r:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by White Raven:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by olivne:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TonkaPVFC:
Why is this unrealistic?
You haven't been sacked, you just haven't been given a new contract. Perhaps they thought the club was moving forward to quickly under your guidance and felt they would prefer someone who would give more steady progress.
There are cases in real life where managers are sacked despite exceeding board expectations.

I agree.
Also, the board might believe that you taken the club as far as you can (based on your reputation), & that their stature has risen enough to atract a manager of a higher quality (club reputation) </BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't believe any normal club would do this until you start faltering. Especially as he is only in the Championship, there is no requirement for such a reaction. Again, this displays a lack of intelligents in the AI. This should have been focused on a lot more in this game. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Then look at Mickey Adams. Sacked for getting Fulham promoted to division 2... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Following a takeover by Al Fayed - a board takeover is a different matter since often a new board want to appoint there own team.

The case under discussion is from the board releasing a manager despite more than THEY ask from him. This is unrealistic.

[White Raven]

Read the thread for god sake. Adams was sacked due to a board takeover. This is possibly a valid reason for sacking a manager on the game, but not in relation to the person who opened this thread.