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Old 11-18-2007, 01:01 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #41
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He wasn't good enough for Everton to be honest - Carsley or Neville are far better in central midfield.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:58 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #42
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Originally posted by ceefax the cat:
But Riquelme's a very particular kind of player, and you have to use him in a very particular way. If you build your team around him, have them work for him, have him searching for space and drifting even when your team loses possession, then you know you've got one of the best playmakers in the world in your side, and will reap the benefits. His lack of pace then becomes academic as he'll make the ball do all the work, and use his brain to find space.

If you're not prepared to play him like that, then you don't want Riquelme in your team.
Sounds like David Noble to me.

There's lots of players that are very good at some things and not good at others - usually they don't make it to the top.
Imo Riquelme benefitted from coming from Argentina - in Italy or England he would probably not have impressed during his loaned-out years.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:06 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #43
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There's lots of players that are very good at some things and not good at others - usually they don't make it to the top.
Imo Riquelme benefitted from coming from Argentina - in Italy or England he would probably not have impressed during his loaned-out years.
What?

Anyway, Ceefax has basically got it spot on. Yes Riquelme has fallen out with Pelligrini and has been training on his own in Villarreal.

They also want money for him and not another loan deal, but he has been saying he will go to Boca at some point in the near future.

So in conclusion, he is outstanding.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:36 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #44
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Totti is so much better than Riquelme it's laughable.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:41 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #45
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How can you say that? They're so different it's laughable!

If I wanted someone, for example, to play the "Riquelme" role, I'd pick Riquelme every time.

And I agree he probably wouldn't have made it in England, at least not as the player he is. He would've been forced to do a lot more donkeywork and been tarred with the 'luxury' brush.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:45 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #46
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Never really understood that argument - obviously different players, doesn't mean you can't say one is better than the other. Compare their achievements at the top level, Totti a far more accomplished player imo, even if Riquelme, at his best, is as good as anyone.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:23 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #47
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Totti is so much better than Riquelme it's laughable.
I wouldnt compare them, but Totti is better but not that much better.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:00 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #48
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Never really understood that argument - obviously different players, doesn't mean you can't say one is better than the other. Compare their achievements at the top level, Totti a far more accomplished player imo, even if Riquelme, at his best, is as good as anyone.
The fact that Riquelme and Totti play different roles within a team does make it hard to say one is much better than the other, because they're so similar in terms of the level they've played at - they're obviously both elite players. Totti has a couple of extra trophies to his name but we all know how stupid it would be to compare them by totting up cups.

They've both played, and played very well, at World Cups and in the Champions League, both had top sides built around them... they both have strengths and weaknesses. Riquelme is probably the harder to stick into any team, for the reasons I described above, while Totti's athleticism and ability to play up front mean he's more likely to slot into any team and do well, but if I was going to build a team around a playmaker, I'd probably take Riquelme.
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:03 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #49
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compare them by totting up cups.
That was good. :thup:
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:05 PM   Riquelme - one of the best players in the world? Post #50
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Yeah - I wasn't agreeing that Totti is FAR better than Riquelme (although I think he is better) - just that I think you can compare them, at least to some extent.

Largely agree with you though.
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