[retired_mystikalpharie]

Originally posted by Helarxe:
so 7 out of 11 players in the park don't do anything but defend.

Well, that’s the idea. The defensive midfielders can produce nothing, Gilberto Silva has a playmaker like Cesc playing alongside him at Arsenal and I would say that he looks better at Arsenal. There were 8 defensive players when Vagner Loves was replaced ffs.

Freedom for the full backs, a playmaker, mobility (not Dunga’s fault at all) of the creative players and a proper striker is what I want.

It’s late in Spain and I don’t want to start another endless discussion but when I said like Brazil I was refereeing to play like a big/ambitious team not about playing sexy football.

[retired_jdupont]

What time is it in Spain now?

Around 00:40?

[retired_Rosangela carv]

New Benfica guy Cardozo on for Valdez.

Is Roque even in the squad?

[retired_Rosangela carv]

Originally posted by PMLF:
What time is it in Spain now?

Around 00:40?

It'll be 01:40 I think.

[retired_jdupont]

Originally posted by Crazy_T:
New Benfica guy Cardozo on for Valdez.

Is Roque even in the squad?

Roque is injured, isn't he?

[retired_lina2212]

Roque has a knee problem



Salas in chile squad, good god.


No Junior ross for Peru



nice to see Vidal in the mix

[retired_kswelker]

Originally posted by yovan:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Helarxe:
so 7 out of 11 players in the park don't do anything but defend.

Well, that’s the idea. The defensive midfielders can produce nothing, Gilberto Silva has a playmaker like Cesc playing alongside him at Arsenal and I would say that he looks better at Arsenal. There were 8 defensive players when Vagner Loves was replaced ffs.

Freedom for the full backs, a playmaker, mobility (not Dunga’s fault at all) of the creative players and a proper striker is what I want.

It’s late in Spain and I don’t want to start another endless discussion but when I said like Brazil I was refereeing to play like a big/ambitious team not about playing sexy football. </BLOCKQUOTE>

yovan, I really agree with you, but it's not the best period for Brazil atm. Ronaldinho is still to recover form, no forwards, mediocre left backs, Baptista in the team, and of course Dunga is too defensive-minded, but at the moment it's what we can do to draw away and win at home to qualify. Next year we'll probably have Pato, maybe Adriano or Fred will be in better shape, Marcelo, Renato Augusto and Willian will have developed, and so on, so our hopes are in the brighter days ahead.

So I really agree with you, but I think it's useless to complain atm, all we can do is wait.

[retired_jdupont]

Originally posted by Crazy_T:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by PMLF:
What time is it in Spain now?

Around 00:40?

It'll be 01:40 I think. </BLOCKQUOTE>

What time is it in England?

Aren't England and Spain in the same timezone?

[retired_bliss123]

it's 00:45 in england. spain is an hour ahead

mon brazil winning tonight

[retired_jdupont]

Originally posted by James M:
it's 00:45 in england. spain is an hour ahead

mon brazil winning tonight

OK, I thought Spain was in the same timezone.

Brazilian players are coming to the pitch.