[Exar Kun]

Originally posted by PMLF:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by moonie:
how is afonso still in the squad? he's been missing in heerenveen, right?

Dunga called the same players that played against USA and Mexico, and pretty much the same players that played Copa América.

Afonso played a cup game recently (for Heerenveen's reserve team), but I am not sure if he has played any league games so far. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Afonso played last wednesday with Heerenveen reserves against PSV for the Ducth cup (2nd round). And he might play on sunday with Heerenveen against Feyenoord.
So it seems he's back at least until the winter break.

[Kolin]

AR-GEN-TINA \o/

[masteR+_+]

Originally posted by Crazy_T:
Yea, but the ones selected, playing in Europe are better than the ones who could be selected from Brazil (except maybe Afonso/Mineiro and ofc Vágner).

But Dunga does seem to ignore many players from Brazil even when they play well (like Rogério Ceni and probably others).

Souza dissing Afonso there

Name me a single striker that is better than Vágner Love, and plays in the Brazilian League. Even Afonso would be unrivalled in Brazil.

I expect you to understand that the likes of Obina (), Alecsandro and Kléber aren't even to be considered national team material, ever.

[masteR+_+]

Originally posted by Exar Kun:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by PMLF:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by moonie:
how is afonso still in the squad? he's been missing in heerenveen, right?

Dunga called the same players that played against USA and Mexico, and pretty much the same players that played Copa América.

Afonso played a cup game recently (for Heerenveen's reserve team), but I am not sure if he has played any league games so far. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Afonso played last wednesday with Heerenveen reserves against PSV for the Ducth cup (2nd round). And he might play on sunday with Heerenveen against Feyenoord.
So it seems he's back at least until the winter break. </BLOCKQUOTE>

How did the fans react to him accusing the club of "slavery" towards him? Or it was only the Brazilian media wording it differently to sell more newspapers?

[Dr_dR3]

Originally posted by Crazy_T:
Since there is a SA WC-Quals thread the best South American squad can go in here

<BLOCKQUOTE> Goalkeepers:

Roberto Abbondanzieri (Getafe), Oscar Ustari (Getafe).

Defenders:

Daniel DÃ*az (Getafe), Gabriel Heinze (Real Madrid), Gabriel Milito (Barcelona), Javier Zanetti (Inter Milan), Fabricio Coloccini (Deportivo La Coruna), Martin Demichelis (Bayern Munich), Nicolas Burdisso (Inter Milan).

Midfielders:

Esteban Cambiasso (Inter Milan), Maxi RodrÃ*guez (Atlético Madrid), Fernando Gago (Real Madrid), Jonas Gutierrez (Mallorca), Javier Mascherano (Liverpool), Federico Insúa (Club América), Juan Román Riquelme (Villarreal).

Forwards:

Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Javier Saviola (Real Madrid), Sergio Agüero (Atlético Madrid), Carlos Tévez (Manchester United).

</BLOCKQUOTE>
Kun Aguero seems to develop well, scored 4 in 5 so far. Is this his first A-cap for Argentina?

Concerning Brazilian squad: I told you crap like Doni,Vagner Love, Craptista and Alfonso would keep getting called up. Especially that Alfonso twat. He refused to return to Heerenveen, and hasn't played a game all season.

[Crazy_T]

Originally posted by masteR+_+:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Crazy_T:
Yea, but the ones selected, playing in Europe are better than the ones who could be selected from Brazil (except maybe Afonso/Mineiro and ofc Vágner).

But Dunga does seem to ignore many players from Brazil even when they play well (like Rogério Ceni and probably others).

Souza dissing Afonso there

Name me a single striker that is better than Vágner Love, and plays in the Brazilian League. Even Afonso would be unrivalled in Brazil.

I expect you to understand that the likes of Obina (), Alecsandro and Kléber aren't even to be considered national team material, ever. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well i don't know any from Brazil actually, but there are some others in Europe that should get a chance.

Obina isn't good enough, what?

[Crazy_T]

Kun Aguero seems to develop well, scored 4 in 5 so far. Is this his first A-cap for Argentina?

Yes, I think. He has only played in youth teams so far, U20 etc etc. He is fb though.

Argies lack of a 'target' upfront could be a problem for them though.

[PMLF]

Obina isn't good enough, what?

He isn't good enough for Brazil.

But he is Obina, so he should be called up anyway.

[PMLF]

Originally posted by Dr_dR3:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Crazy_T:
Since there is a SA WC-Quals thread the best South American squad can go in here

<BLOCKQUOTE> Goalkeepers:

Roberto Abbondanzieri (Getafe), Oscar Ustari (Getafe).

Defenders:

Daniel DÃ*az (Getafe), Gabriel Heinze (Real Madrid), Gabriel Milito (Barcelona), Javier Zanetti (Inter Milan), Fabricio Coloccini (Deportivo La Coruna), Martin Demichelis (Bayern Munich), Nicolas Burdisso (Inter Milan).

Midfielders:

Esteban Cambiasso (Inter Milan), Maxi RodrÃ*guez (Atlético Madrid), Fernando Gago (Real Madrid), Jonas Gutierrez (Mallorca), Javier Mascherano (Liverpool), Federico Insúa (Club América), Juan Román Riquelme (Villarreal).

Forwards:

Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Javier Saviola (Real Madrid), Sergio Agüero (Atlético Madrid), Carlos Tévez (Manchester United).

</BLOCKQUOTE>
Kun Aguero seems to develop well, scored 4 in 5 so far. Is this his first A-cap for Argentina?

Concerning Brazilian squad: I told you crap like Doni,Vagner Love, Craptista and Alfonso would keep getting called up. Especially that Alfonso twat. He refused to return to Heerenveen, and hasn't played a game all season. </BLOCKQUOTE>


He played against us last year (and he got pretty nervius too ).

[Crazy_T]

I remember watching Sergio Agüero playing for Independiente when he was only 16 and you could tell how good he was then.

But why did Atlético buy 90% of him, instead of just all of him? If that is true.