England: The Euro 2008 climax featuring games against Austria and Croatia, a guaranteed tabloid mongfest, and extended highlights of Israel v Russia

retired_kpr · 11-08-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by super_imps:
England in a tournament is annoying. Car flags (sorry smiffy), "updates from the england camp" at half time during unrelated games, the whole ****ing nation suddenly becoming committed football fans when they couldn't gaf the rest of the time, Polly Filler type newspaper columnists saying either "well, I'm taking advantage of all the idiot men being in the pub to go shopping in the peace and quiet" or "that Wayne Rooney's a bit of rough isn't he?", car flags and the fact that we're definitely going to win unless those dastardly foreigners cheat us out of it somehow.

It's just crap.

But as I say, come on you lion hearted heroes, if it wasn't for the English you'd be krauts etc etc.

Have to say I disagree with most of that. I find watching big games at the pub is really good fun if you get into it. And I quite like the way people who don't usually gaf about football get into it for a few weeks. I really think the tournament will be a much blander experience if England aren't there.

Also would be a disaster for my company (bookmaker) if England didn't qualify, would lose loads of business.

On the other hand I've backed McClaren to not be England manager on 31/12/07 at 8/11. Emotional hedge :thup: But a value emotional hedge :cool:

Anyway someone explain my last post, why is everyone ignoring Macedonia v Croatia, I don't understand why that isn't just as important as the Russia game.

mattsaunders · 11-08-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Utter Utter Loser (Ned):
Anyway someone explain my last post, why is everyone ignoring Macedonia v Croatia, I don't understand why that isn't just as important as the Russia game.

no, you're right. just that a Macedonia win is much less likely than Russia dropping points in Israel.

retired_gomab2k4 · 11-08-2007, 01:02 AM

Don't think England will qualify and I'll be in the U.S. for the first 3 weeks of the tournament, so I've got mixed feelings about whether I would be completely happy for us to get through.

retired_nini59 · 11-08-2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Utter Utter Loser (Ned):
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by super_imps:
England in a tournament is annoying. Car flags (sorry smiffy), "updates from the england camp" at half time during unrelated games, the whole ****ing nation suddenly becoming committed football fans when they couldn't gaf the rest of the time, Polly Filler type newspaper columnists saying either "well, I'm taking advantage of all the idiot men being in the pub to go shopping in the peace and quiet" or "that Wayne Rooney's a bit of rough isn't he?", car flags and the fact that we're definitely going to win unless those dastardly foreigners cheat us out of it somehow.

It's just crap.

But as I say, come on you lion hearted heroes, if it wasn't for the English you'd be krauts etc etc.

Have to say I disagree with most of that. I find watching big games at the pub is really good fun if you get into it. And I quite like the way people who don't usually gaf about football get into it for a few weeks. I really think the tournament will be a much blander experience if England aren't there.

Also would be a disaster for my company (bookmaker) if England didn't qualify, would lose loads of business.

</BLOCKQUOTE>

would probably lose more if they won it though.

DebSchiff · 11-08-2007, 01:04 AM

I didn't actually say anything about watching games in packed pubs being bad? Probably the most enjoyable aspect of England in a tournament imo.

retired_kpr · 11-08-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by Rob1981:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Utter Utter Loser (Ned):
Anyway someone explain my last post, why is everyone ignoring Macedonia v Croatia, I don't understand why that isn't just as important as the Russia game.

no, you're right. just that a Macedonia win is much less likely than Russia dropping points in Israel. </BLOCKQUOTE>

England have still got a reasonable chance if Macedonia draw, though. If we beat Croatia by two goals we're through (assuming goal difference is the tie breaker). Chance of Croatia failing to win in Macedonia is not massively less likely than that of Russia failing to beat both Israel and Andorra.

I am right about the macedonia draw thing, yes?

retired_kpr · 11-08-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by ericcantona7:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Utter Utter Loser (Ned):
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by super_imps:
England in a tournament is annoying. Car flags (sorry smiffy), "updates from the england camp" at half time during unrelated games, the whole ****ing nation suddenly becoming committed football fans when they couldn't gaf the rest of the time, Polly Filler type newspaper columnists saying either "well, I'm taking advantage of all the idiot men being in the pub to go shopping in the peace and quiet" or "that Wayne Rooney's a bit of rough isn't he?", car flags and the fact that we're definitely going to win unless those dastardly foreigners cheat us out of it somehow.

It's just crap.

But as I say, come on you lion hearted heroes, if it wasn't for the English you'd be krauts etc etc.

Have to say I disagree with most of that. I find watching big games at the pub is really good fun if you get into it. And I quite like the way people who don't usually gaf about football get into it for a few weeks. I really think the tournament will be a much blander experience if England aren't there.

Also would be a disaster for my company (bookmaker) if England didn't qualify, would lose loads of business.

</BLOCKQUOTE>

would probably lose more if they won it though. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well actually it's a spread betting company so it's a bit different to most bookies. we have more running on the individual games than on who wins the tournament. If England got all the way to the final and won we'd certainly be up, unless England won every game 5-0 or something.

mattsaunders · 11-08-2007, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by Utter Utter Loser (Ned):
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Rob1981:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Utter Utter Loser (Ned):
Anyway someone explain my last post, why is everyone ignoring Macedonia v Croatia, I don't understand why that isn't just as important as the Russia game.

no, you're right. just that a Macedonia win is much less likely than Russia dropping points in Israel. </BLOCKQUOTE>

England have still got a reasonable chance if Macedonia draw, though. If we beat Croatia by two goals we're through (assuming goal difference is the tie breaker). Chance of Croatia failing to win in Macedonia is not massively less likely than that of Russia failing to beat both Israel and Andorra.

I am right about the macedonia draw thing, yes? </BLOCKQUOTE>

no. Croatia would need to lose. It's my fault - i've done the table wrong in opening post. Croatia are on 26 points, not 25.

runronnirun · 11-08-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by gaga_4_parma:
*Nelson type laugh* HA HA!

btw Russia to lose to Israel but lose to Croatia.

much as i'm not really bothered whether England make it or not, i so hope that comes back to bite you and the Scots put you out.

retired_shannon · 11-08-2007, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by Nick OGS20:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by gaga_4_parma:
*Nelson type laugh* HA HA!

btw Russia to lose to Israel but lose to Croatia.

much as i'm not really bothered whether England make it or not, i so hope that comes back to bite you and the Scots put you out. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Ukraine would save us!

HA HA!

And England would still be ****! and Italy still WC... :cool:

England: The Euro 2008 climax *featuring games against Austria and Croatia, a guaranteed tabloid mongfest, and extended highlights of Israel v Russia*

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