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Old 11-12-2007, 09:17 PM   Champions League / UEFA Cup revamped from 2009 Post #31
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:18 PM   Champions League / UEFA Cup revamped from 2009 Post #32
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by DJ:
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Why isn't "League" in italic too, last time I checked it was a cup and not a league but that part of the name doesn't seam to bother anyone...
Who cares what it's called really, as long as it remains the best football competition and as long as it doesn't get weaker I'll be fine. </BLOCKQUOTE>

The League of Nations wasn't based around a home and away fixture format either. No wonder they failed to prevent World War 2.

The "as strong as possible" argument is balls too. In that case, why not exclude everyone but England, Spain and Italy? Those three nations have won eight of the last ten, let's make it a tri-nations instead.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:23 PM   Champions League / UEFA Cup revamped from 2009 Post #33
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Meitheisman:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by DJ:
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Why isn't "League" in italic too, last time I checked it was a cup and not a league but that part of the name doesn't seam to bother anyone...
Who cares what it's called really, as long as it remains the best football competition and as long as it doesn't get weaker I'll be fine. </BLOCKQUOTE>

The League of Nations wasn't based around a home and away fixture format either. No wonder they failed to prevent World War 2.

The "as strong as possible" argument is balls too. In that case, why not exclude everyone but England, Spain and Italy? Those three nations have won eight of the last ten, let's make it a tri-nations instead. </BLOCKQUOTE>

For that reason exactly, other teams still have a chance and should keep it but 2/10 is nowhere near enough of a reason to increase there chances.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:28 PM   Champions League / UEFA Cup revamped from 2009 Post #34
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Europe should so just like Asia then:

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The AFC also runs three levels of annual international club competitions. The most prestigious (and oldest of the current AFC club competitions) is the AFC Champions League tournament, based on the UEFA Champions League, formed in 2002/03 with the amalgamation of the Asian Champions Cup and the Asian Cup Winners Cup. (An Asian Super Cup competition between the winners of these two major tournaments ended with the birth of the AFC Champions League.) The other competitions branched off this in 2004 when the 'Vision Asia' blueprint for development was launched. This led to the top fourteen AFC nations, the 'mature nations', sending their best teams to the AFC Champions League. The next 14 nations, the 'developing nations' qualify to send their teams to the AFC Cup.

The rest of the AFC-affiliated countries, the 'emerging nations' send their teams to the AFC President's Cup. The teams which qualify from each country are usually the champions and the cup winners [1]. Currently there is no promotion and relegation between the different levels of nations.
But including a promotion and relegation system.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:30 PM   Champions League / UEFA Cup revamped from 2009 Post #35
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If relegations/promotions are included I'm all for it
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:36 PM   Champions League / UEFA Cup revamped from 2009 Post #36
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If you want the best teams in you try to reduce the luck factor to a minimum.
replace two legged games with four legged games then? make teams from worse leagues play with ten men? etc.

if you want the best teams you give the better nations more spots, but you shouldn't make most of europe grub their way through qualifying just for ten spots in the group stages.
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more champions is good, should mean a few more 'new' euro aways and some different groups hopefully. no idea why they've felt the need to let third-placed teams in automatically though.

not too much wrong with the competition really. more champions, stop 4th placed teams entering, make third placed teams work harder to qualify, less seeding in the group stage. that'd do nicely.
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make third placed teams work harder to qualify

This is easy, just make them play against each other in the qualifying rounds.
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Originally posted by Kill Rock Stars:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Meitheisman:
If you want the best teams in you try to reduce the luck factor to a minimum.
replace two legged games with four legged games then? make teams from worse leagues play with ten men? etc.

if you want the best teams you give the better nations more spots, but you shouldn't make most of europe grub their way through qualifying just for ten spots in the group stages. </BLOCKQUOTE>

The better nations should have more spots imo yes.
Then the qualifying system for poorer nations could be changed I guess but whether you have 40 or 20 teams from smaller nations trying to get in doesn't really make a difference to me, the fact is that they should not get any more spots than they already have imo.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>make third placed teams work harder to qualify

This is easy, just make them play against each other in the qualifying rounds. </BLOCKQUOTE>

3rd team in EPL should play 3rd team in Spain you mean?
And on the other hand have teams from Latvia and Andorra facing off to get a spot.
No thanks, I'd much rather have both the Spanish and the English team in.
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