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Old 12-03-2007, 01:42 PM   European Championship 2008: The Draw (dec 2nd) Post #211
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Razzler:
<BLOCKQUOTE>As usual the groups are very unbalanced. Group C is the group of death and the other groups only have 1 big team each
Always going to be the way with the joint hosts thing and Greece (albeit, holders) all seeded.

Nothing particularly mouth-watering outside of Group C, Spain get Sweden again and Romania and the Dutch that just qualified together. </BLOCKQUOTE>
italy and france also just qualified together, that group is weird, all four teams came from 2 groups. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Forgot about Italy and France being in the same group as well. Crotia should get through that group and then someone will snap up Bilic and England will play Croats with a new manager and they'll someone new in as well
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:43 PM   European Championship 2008: The Draw (dec 2nd) Post #212
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Does it really matter if the hosts are ****?
Not if there is only 1 host. 2 **** hosts in a 4 group tournament is a bit rubbish. No one really wanted to be 'the other' top seed in this
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:56 PM   European Championship 2008: The Draw (dec 2nd) Post #213
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As usual the groups are very unbalanced. Group C is the group of death and the other groups only have 1 big team each. :thdn:
And as usual you haven't got a clue.

Czech and Croatia not big? Get a grip.
Sweden/Russia/Greece I can agree with not being "big" names but they are still in the top 25 in the world, just as Turkey and Poland. Actually all teams bar the hosts are in the top 25 in the world (well according to the not so great FIFA ranking at least.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:59 PM   European Championship 2008: The Draw (dec 2nd) Post #214
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The Swiss aren't that bad. Sure they would of qualified if they weren't hosts.
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:31 PM   European Championship 2008: The Draw (dec 2nd) Post #215
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by PMLF:
As usual the groups are very unbalanced. Group C is the group of death and the other groups only have 1 big team each. :thdn:
And as usual you haven't got a clue.

Czech and Croatia not big? Get a grip.
Sweden/Russia/Greece I can agree with not being "big" names but they are still in the top 25 in the world, just as Turkey and Poland. Actually all teams bar the hosts are in the top 25 in the world (well according to the not so great FIFA ranking at least. </BLOCKQUOTE>


Czechs and Croatia big?

When it comes to being big teams, they are way below Portugal, Germany, Holland, Netherlands, Italy, France and Spain (and England too, if they had qualified for the tournament).

They are 2nd tier teams, regardless of FIFA's ranking (which nobody takes seriously anyway).
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When it comes to being big teams, they are way below Portugal, Germany, Holland, Netherlands, Italy, France and Spain (and England too, if they had qualified for the tournament).
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The Netherlands are so good that deserve to be mentioned twice.
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Come on the Dutch.
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Portugal or Holland winning will do me fine.

Love Spain to win as well as I've put money on them, but that clearly will not happen.
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Czechs and Croatia big?

When it comes to being big teams, they are way below Portugal, Germany, Holland, Netherlands, Italy, France and Spain (and England too, if they had qualified for the tournament).

They are 2nd tier teams, regardless of FIFA's ranking (which nobody takes seriously anyway).
So clearly just believing he hype rather than facts.

Croatia clearly bigger than england both in FIFA ranking, in actual play (beat them home and away) and they also actually have a WC medal in the last 30 years.

England has a great league but their national team is waay worse, don't confuse them.
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