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Old 02-25-2005, 06:02 PM   3 level graphic menu -> Rollover yes or no ? Post #1
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Hi folks,

i first made my menu and then thought about the programming. It seems to have been a stupid idea \:]
You can assume that I have a bit knowledge of everything and am eager to learn more.

on this page you can see what I want to do and what my first problem is.
The wrong rollover im action can be seen here.
I thought I best do rollovers with image ready, but I'm beginning to get a vague feeling that I better forget about that since I have a 3rd level.

My 2 questions are:
1. What did I do wrong sofar ?
2. How do I get my 3 graphics to function as menu/navigation ?


Hoping for help before I throw my computer out of the window...
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Old 02-26-2005, 03:42 AM   3 level graphic menu -> Rollover yes or no ? Post #2
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Default 3 level graphic menu -> Rollover yes or no ?

Welcome Lioness...


To be honest i'm not real sure i understand the inner workings of your menu. But guessing from what i saw on that example page, i'm going to advise using Flash for this type of menu; if at all possible. That doesn't mean saving out from IR as flash though. Not the same thing.

It looks as though the things you want to do will require each mouse hover to replace the entire menu with another version. That could prove costly in file size and download times.

As for what you may or maynot have done right/wrong... that's tough to say without having a specific blow-by-blow of your methods.
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Old 02-27-2005, 02:36 AM   3 level graphic menu -> Rollover yes or no ? Post #3
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Hi Lionness welcome nice to have you here.

I didn't look at your samples but from your description, I recommend you go to Dreamweaver for your rollovers, they allow three stages and they also accomodate Flash if you are so inclined. If the works gets complicated, switch to Fireworks and roundtrip into DW.

Try that and if you have questions, come back, I can help you more in DW, I never use IR for web development.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:40 PM   3 level graphic menu -> Rollover yes or no ? Post #4
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OK-I think I have a handle on what you're trying to do. Let me try to recap and see if I have this right:
1) To start you have a basic menu with 3 options.
2) When you click on an item a new menu appears (in the same place as the old one) with the original menu item now at the top and the sub options listed underneath.
3) Mousing over the suboptions causes each to glow (clicking takes you to the appropriate page I'm presuming).

The problem is:
The first suboption in the new menu is in the same position as the second option in the ORIGINAL menu.
When clicked, you are taken to the link attached to the second option on the ORIGINAL menu, rather than the suboption in the new menu.

Is that right?

The way I would set this up (in Dreamweaver) is as follows:
1) Create a layer for each menu version (one for the base menu and one each for each of the 3 submenus).
2) Within each layer setup your menus accordingly (whether you're using one graphic for the whole menu or tables with sliced graphics).
3) Now for the main menu, add a behavior for the first menu item that will turn off the base layer and turn on the layer containing the submenu for that item (when you click on it). You can either attach that behavior to the graphic (if it's sliced) or to an image map (if the menu is one single graphic).
4) Your new submenu should function OK now (you might have been having troubles before if your base layer was still turned on but hidden-I'm guessing the cursor saw two links and defaulted to the base layer)
5) Now, how to get the base layer back again? If your menu is one large graphic you can draw an image map over the whole graphic. Attach a behavior that says when you mouse out of that area, the submenu layer will turn off and the base layer will turn back on.
Alternatively (this is a little tidier), you can add another layer beneath the submenu layer (call it submenu map), and drop a clear gif image in the same size and position as the menu. Attach the "mouseout" behavior as in the previous paragraph (if you use this method be sure to turn the map layers on and off along with the submenu layers when they're to be activated).

Be sure to set up your page so the base menu layer is the only one visible when it loads.

I really hope that made sense, I know it is rather confusing (took me a while to wrestle through that when I had to do it). There may of course be more elegant solutions out there (but as a web buddy of mine once told me-the best solution is the one you get to work!).

As The Keeper said though, be mindful of page weight with all those layers and graphics. I would also throw in the usual caution about using Flash-don't do it unless you know your audience can see it. Just remember, if they don't have the plug-in they won't be able to see it-annoying if it's providing content, but disasterous if the Flash is providing your site navigation...

Good luck!
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