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Old 12-02-2007, 04:16 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #681
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Yes it is, and that precludes him from receiving the state benefits due to means testing. So there's no difference.

Interestingly the typist has tendonitis. Like me. But as I was self employed I can't claim a bena and have to sort myself out. I expect I've got depression too, but I can't see what good admitting it would do anyone.
Of course there a difference. He gets his wage guaranteed for life and it increases with inflation. It isn't means tested it's based on what he earned. She will be means tested and having 430,000 in the bank is going to cause a few problems there.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:18 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #682
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As per usual you refuse to answer the question. What is that with people like you?
No criticism there. No wonder your life is so **** if that's how you ask people polite questions.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:19 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #683
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:

Yes it is, and that precludes him from receiving the state benefits due to means testing. So there's no difference.

Interestingly the typist has tendonitis. Like me. But as I was self employed I can't claim a bena and have to sort myself out. I expect I've got depression too, but I can't see what good admitting it would do anyone.
Of course there a difference. He gets his wage guaranteed for life and it increases with inflation. It isn't means tested it's based on what he earned. She will be means tested and having 430,000 in the bank is going to cause a few problems there. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think compensation is taken into account in means testing, as it's there to compensate for injuries and having to leave your career rather than to sustain you day to day.

She can walk into another job tomorrow if she likes. Ben Parkinson is a legless ****ing vegetable. Bit of a difference there.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:23 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #684
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Ummm I did answer the question. You're just too stupid to understand the point I'm making. Replace banging your head against the wall with a real inherently dangerous job if it helps you understand better.
You haven't answered why they should pay more for insurance yet recieve less in payments? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well it isn't the same insurance for one. If we don't pay medical and travel insurance while travelling and something happens during that time well we just die. If you as an army dude doesn't pay medical and travel insurance and something happens on the battlefield they don't just say **** it and leave you there. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Feel uncomfortable saying this but had your girlfriend died and she'd been sent there as part of her job her employer wouldn't leave her there either. Had she not been employed the Swiss government would still have cared for any dependents.
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But then she wouldn't need travel insurance would she so that's what I mean when it isn't a fair comparison.

I don't believe army guys have to pay their own premiums to cover medical bills and evac costs in the event of injury. If you can link me to that though I'm more than happy to hold my hands up and admit I'm wrong.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:29 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #685
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I don't think compensation is taken into account in means testing, as it's there to compensate for injuries and having to leave your career rather than to sustain you day to day.

She can walk into another job tomorrow if she likes. Ben Parkinson is a legless ****ing vegetable. Bit of a difference there.
That's the problem though. I know on an emotional level there's a complete difference but on a legal level she's lost her ability to earn due to an injury sustained working for the MOD. Plus it's a preventable injury. Without knowing the details I'm guessing that part of the compensation would be due to the MOD taking insufficient measure to stop a preventable injury. Once again the same doesn't apply to Ben Parkinson. On an emotional level the guys deserves all the care in the world and millions of pounds but on a practical level the army has limited resource as determined by the govt and determined what the tax payers are willing to pay.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:31 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #686
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Of course they don't, you pay the insurance because after you're medevac the compensation received will be a quarter what a civilian could expect, and this tops it up.

It's called the PAX scheme.

Premiums up to nearly a grand a year, and you have to pay 6 months premiums before you're covered. Lovely.

If you think people sent to the Far East on company business without travel insurance, you're wrong.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:35 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #687
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I don't think compensation is taken into account in means testing, as it's there to compensate for injuries and having to leave your career rather than to sustain you day to day.

She can walk into another job tomorrow if she likes. Ben Parkinson is a legless ****ing vegetable. Bit of a difference there.
That's the problem though. I know on an emotional level there's a complete difference but on a legal level she's lost her ability to earn due to an injury sustained working for the MOD. Plus it's a preventable injury. Without knowing the details I'm guessing that part of the compensation would be due to the MOD taking insufficient measure to stop a preventable injury. Once again the same doesn't apply to Ben Parkinson. On an emotional level the guys deserves all the care in the world and millions of pounds but on a practical level the army has limited resource as determined by the govt and determined what the tax payers are willing to pay. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Rubbish, she's lost her ability to type just like I've lost my ability to tile. You do something else instead.

As for the injury being preventable, you may be unaware that the MOD has spent a grand per person on ergonmic chairs and kit to prevent such injuries. While infantry still sleep on the rather unergonomic floor and don't claim for it.

Also you've misunderstood - I'm not saying Parkinson deserves more, I'm saying he deserves more than the typist. Much, much more.
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He also deserves a hospital or at least a dedicated ward where he doesn't have the addition concern that a visitor might smother him or a doctor/nurse might murder him.
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But they get an army disability pension relative to what they were earning and which increases with inflation. A civilan wouldn't unless they'd paid for it.

In fact thinking about it I'm guessing Parkinson will get his 19k a year plus state disability allowance whereas a civilians wouldn't get the initial 19k a month.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:46 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #690
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He also deserves a hospital or at least a dedicated ward where he doesn't have the addition concern that a visitor might smother him or a doctor/nurse might murder him.
You'll have to link me to the recent outbreak of soldier smothering in the NHS. Missed that one.
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