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Old 12-02-2007, 03:58 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #671
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Abe Lenstra:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TheCranker:
Because it's inherently dangerous. If I took a job smashing my head against the wall repeatedly I wouldn't expect the same compensation as someone who works on an assembly line and loses their legs through the poor safety procedures of their company. Compensation should be influenced by the employers ability to prevent such injury.
So you compare being in the Military with a job smashing your head against a wall, repeatedly? </BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't think both are inherently dangerous? </BLOCKQUOTE>

As per usual you refuse to answer the question. What is that with people like you?

Do you think that it's fair to make the comparisson that you make between these 2 'jobs' based on the the premis that both are 'inherently dangerous'?
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:02 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #672
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Ummm I did answer the question. You're just too stupid to understand the point I'm making. Replace banging your head against the wall with a real inherently dangerous job if it helps you understand better.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:06 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #673
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Look, the taxpayer does very well from our armed forces. What claims could a civil servant put in had his employer made a ****-up resulting in his having no food for a day or two? Or being forced to spend a winter's night out in the open with no shelter or sleeping bag? Having to drink from a stream?
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:06 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #674
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Not sure how that's relevant. You said army compensation doesn't take into account how much you'd earned had you stayed in the job for life but it seems to does. That RAF typist you're bleating about and seems to be getting 484,000 but this covers her future earnings and her legal costs.
It's a disability pension. And the typist is also entitled to the same, in the form of state benefits. </BLOCKQUOTE>

But they wouldn't be related to loss of earnings. According to that MOD quote his is.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:07 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #675
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Ummm I did answer the question. You're just too stupid to understand the point I'm making. Replace banging your head against the wall with a real inherently dangerous job if it helps you understand better.
You haven't answered why they should pay more for insurance yet recieve less in payments?
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:09 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #676
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
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Not sure how that's relevant. You said army compensation doesn't take into account how much you'd earned had you stayed in the job for life but it seems to does. That RAF typist you're bleating about and seems to be getting 484,000 but this covers her future earnings and her legal costs.
It's a disability pension. And the typist is also entitled to the same, in the form of state benefits. </BLOCKQUOTE>

But they wouldn't be related to loss of earnings. According to that MOD quote his is. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it is, and that precludes him from receiving the state benefits due to means testing. So there's no difference.

Interestingly the typist has tendonitis. Like me. But as I was self employed I can't claim a bena and have to sort myself out. I expect I've got depression too, but I can't see what good admitting it would do anyone.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:11 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #677
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Ummm I did answer the question. You're just too stupid to understand the point I'm making. Replace banging your head against the wall with a real inherently dangerous job if it helps you understand better.
You haven't answered why they should pay more for insurance yet recieve less in payments? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well it isn't the same insurance for one. If we don't pay medical and travel insurance while travelling and something happens during that time well we just die. If you as an army dude doesn't pay medical and travel insurance and something happens on the battlefield they don't just say **** it and leave you there.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:12 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #678
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Ummm I did answer the question. You're just too stupid to understand the point I'm making. Replace banging your head against the wall with a real inherently dangerous job if it helps you understand better.
Ah abuse. Very typical. Why is that btw? Did i, anywhere, disagreed with you? I just asked a question. Not even a critical question.

I agreed with you that both 'jobs' were inherently dangerous. I only asked if you think that this alone is enough to fairly compare the two jobs? Nothing more.

But never mind. I'm not wasting any more time on your sort.
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:14 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #679
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*prays that means Abe will frak off away from these boards for good*
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Old 12-02-2007, 04:15 PM   Let's wind Bert up, shall we ? Post #680
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TheCranker:
Ummm I did answer the question. You're just too stupid to understand the point I'm making. Replace banging your head against the wall with a real inherently dangerous job if it helps you understand better.
You haven't answered why they should pay more for insurance yet recieve less in payments? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well it isn't the same insurance for one. If we don't pay medical and travel insurance while travelling and something happens during that time well we just die. If you as an army dude doesn't pay medical and travel insurance and something happens on the battlefield they don't just say **** it and leave you there. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Feel uncomfortable saying this but had your girlfriend died and she'd been sent there as part of her job her employer wouldn't leave her there either. Had she not been employed the Swiss government would still have cared for any dependents.

Also a civilian employer would never dock the insurance premiums from the travelling employee's wages, while soldiers are encouraged by the MOD to pay their own premiums - because the MOD won't.
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