Let's wind Bert up, shall we ?

retired_ks reddy · 10-22-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by finneys13:

They have done the same or worse to the Kurds compared to what the Kurds have done to them, and the Turkish army is anti-democratic.

No it's not. It steps in when democracy's in danger, then steps back again.

The Turkish army go around bombing buses full of tourists?

retired_ks reddy · 10-22-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by eldiego1984:
tbf I lack the motivation to continue discussing civilized without Jasari in the thread...

Where do you think he has gone?

SHUT YOUR ****ING FACE YOU ****ING PIIIIG.

I'm richer than yow.

retired_justin05 · 10-22-2007, 02:31 PM

terrorism is just when you don't fight fair according to the definition of the enemy. Conveniently the enemy tend to change the definition once they invent weapons good enough so they don't need to or become strong enough they don't need to.

retired_rinkjustice · 10-22-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by finneys13:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Kizzak:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by eldiego1984:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
Not labelled as terrorists because of all the bombings, kidnappings and assasinations then?

Terrorism has become (or will become) a bit of a joke if the Kurds are considered terrorists </BLOCKQUOTE>

The PKK has been on the terrorist list for years

bombing civilian targets and planting mines are a quick way to get on the list </BLOCKQUOTE>

So the American Army is a terrorist organisation then? And the Israeli? And many of the Western Armies? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Quite plausibly, yes. About the only difference is those armies tend to do their best to avoid targeting civilians - while the PKK really don't give a ****

btw Bert, about our mini-argument before the other thread got closed yesterday

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149369/

retired_ks reddy · 10-22-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by TheCranker:
terrorism is just when you don't fight fair according to the definition of the enemy. Conveniently the enemy tend to change the definition once they invent weapons good enough so they don't need to or become strong enough they don't need to.

So there are no terrorists?

retired_jabda · 10-22-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by Kizzak:

Quite plausibly, yes. About the only difference is those armies tend to do their best to avoid targeting civilians - while the PKK really don't give a ****

btw Bert, about our mini-argument before the other thread got closed yesterday

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149369/

So the Israeli army is definitely a terrorist organisation then?

retired_justin05 · 10-22-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TheCranker:
terrorism is just when you don't fight fair according to the definition of the enemy. Conveniently the enemy tend to change the definition once they invent weapons good enough so they don't need to or become strong enough they don't need to.

So there are no terrorists? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well there are but it's never as clear cut as you think. War and language too ambiguous for such neat definitions anyway.

retired_rinkjustice · 10-22-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by finneys13:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Kizzak:

Quite plausibly, yes. About the only difference is those armies tend to do their best to avoid targeting civilians - while the PKK really don't give a ****

btw Bert, about our mini-argument before the other thread got closed yesterday

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149369/

So the Israeli army is definitely a terrorist organisation then? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Your words, not mine

Definition is really in the eye of the definer though.
If Blackwater was a Russian or Iranian group and was caught funneling arms to Al-Qaeda and shooting quite recklessly, whether they killed insurgents or civilians, the way we [the US] would talk about them is entirely different than how we do talk about them.

retired_itsthewitchinme · 10-22-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Lathund:
I cba to read the other thread again, but I presume this fella claims hundreds of thousands of Armenians just died from natural causes within a short period of time?

They all went on holiday iirc

retired_ks reddy · 10-22-2007, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheCranker:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Sir Bert Preast:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by TheCranker:
terrorism is just when you don't fight fair according to the definition of the enemy. Conveniently the enemy tend to change the definition once they invent weapons good enough so they don't need to or become strong enough they don't need to.

So there are no terrorists? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well there are but it's never as clear cut as you think. War and language too ambiguous for such neat definitions anyway. </BLOCKQUOTE>

How about "groups that make attacks on unarmed targets"?

Let's wind Bert up, shall we ?

Grab a beer, sit back and relax.

Let's wind Bert up, shall we ?