Let's wind Bert up, shall we ?

retired_princess160 · 10-22-2007, 02:03 PM

I may have less money than you (for arguments sake - in reality you are a 16 year old bull crap artist and don't think people can't see through it) - but I, at least, have THE TRUTH on my side.

TURKEY will lose KURDISTAN. ,,|,

retired_Siwash · 10-22-2007, 02:05 PM

I love the irony of a nationalist Turk criticizing someone for not condemning genocide strongly enough :thup: I cba to read the other thread again, but I presume this fella claims hundreds of thousands of Armenians just died from natural causes within a short period of time?

retired_rinkjustice · 10-22-2007, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by finneys13:
So you don't agree that if a people make a majority in an area of a country, they should have the right of self-determination? Why should the Kurds be ruled by Turks, when they want to rule themselves?

I profoundly disagree with that idea.

They can do it the hard way like we did, or they can suck it up and deal with it.

That is unless you'd see no problem if regions or cities in England decided to up and declare themselves autonomous for whatever reason.

retired_princess160 · 10-22-2007, 02:07 PM

*Hopes for a southern rebel to enter this thread now*

retired_wwl77 · 10-22-2007, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kizzak:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by finneys13:
So you don't agree that if a people make a majority in an area of a country, they should have the right of self-determination? Why should the Kurds be ruled by Turks, when they want to rule themselves?

I profoundly disagree with that idea.

They can do it the hard way like we did, or they can suck it up and deal with it.

That is unless you'd see no problem if regions or cities in England decided to up and declare themselves autonomous for whatever reason. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah tbf, this idea of finneys smacks of tribalism, which is a problem we fought hard to extinguish as a civilization

retired_wwl77 · 10-22-2007, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ:
*Hopes for a southern rebel to enter this thread now*

They don't have the internet in Kurdistan...

retired_rinkjustice · 10-22-2007, 02:11 PM

He could have been talking about the American south

Though most of the rebels there don't have the internet either

retired_princess160 · 10-22-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eldiego1984:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by DJ:
*Hopes for a southern rebel to enter this thread now*

They don't have the internet in Kurdistan... </BLOCKQUOTE>

That's because they are OPPRESSED by the EVIL TURKISH government who are under the influence of RABID MUSLIMS like Jasari. Atatürk would have given the Kurds their FREEDOM long ago!

retired_princess160 · 10-22-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kizzak:
He could have been talking about the American south

Though most of the rebels there don't have the internet either

Yeeeehaw

retired_jabda · 10-22-2007, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kizzak:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by finneys13:
So you don't agree that if a people make a majority in an area of a country, they should have the right of self-determination? Why should the Kurds be ruled by Turks, when they want to rule themselves?

I profoundly disagree with that idea.

They can do it the hard way like we did, or they can suck it up and deal with it.

That is unless you'd see no problem if regions or cities in England decided to up and declare themselves autonomous for whatever reason. </BLOCKQUOTE>

To qualify for self-determination, you need to be a region that can be self-sufficient, ie. not Kosovo, and to show that your culture is at least fairly different to the country you want to succeed from.

I think the Kurds qualify, and they have been fighting for it, the American Government has labelled them terrorists as they want to keep the Turks friendly, and the Turks have beaten down the Kurds horribly for uprising.

Let's wind Bert up, shall we ?

Grab a beer, sit back and relax.

Let's wind Bert up, shall we ?