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Old 12-04-2007, 01:47 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #61
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And as I said emotional attachment is a rubbish excuse.
You're getting things completely about face. it's not an excuse at all, it's the biggest single reason the game survives and is so popular at the professional level. You might as well try to remove the ball from the equation.

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It is something indoctrinated into us as a sort of pack mentality and our need for a sense of belonging.
Again, wrong way round. It's not indoctrinated into us at all, it's an innate need, that is then filled by football.

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In regards to the going to the game side of things, I understand you're use of the whole event as a means to see friends, catch up etc, but I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the football alone, if you're not watching it to be entertained then why are you there?
There are many different forms of "entertainment". Good football is one of them, but the sense of belonging you alludede to, the shared experience, the emotional rollercoaster are all at least as if not more significant.

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As a season ticket holder to QPR, paying over £20 a match, I feel that if I am not happy with the way the team is performing then I should be allowed to voice my displeasure. By the same token, I am also out of my seat shouting and screaming encouragement whenever we play well.
Don't the team need your encouragement more when they're not playing well, rather than less?
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:49 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #62
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Again though you’re comparing football to other things when it’s quite unique. ‘Just don’t go’ isn’t an option for a lot of fans.
And there's the crux.
It is, it's just they're not willing to accept it.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:52 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #63
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. so funny when you think about it. making a funny, child like noise to display anger.
Another reason I couldn't boo anyone. I could hurl abuse and scream obscenities but the motion of booing would just feel so childish.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:58 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #64
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Neil Purvis:
Again though you’re comparing football to other things when it’s quite unique. ‘Just don’t go’ isn’t an option for a lot of fans.
And there's the crux.
It is, it's just they're not willing to accept it. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You're missing the point again. In all the other things you used as analogies, there's somewhere else to go. You don't like the car, you buy another make, you don't like the film, you see something by another director, etc etc. But with football, you go to watch your team or you have to lose all of the associated things it brings, which is much more than just seeing good football or winning games.

So while it's correct to say they could just not go, it's a much bigger decision than you are making out.

Unless the person is some sort of latterday plastic "fan" who just switches allegiance, like Tim Lovejoy or Juni, of course.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:00 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #65
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On this board we see ridicule upon ridicule placed upon religion and those who believe in god.
And yet we're willing to allow ourselves to be blinded by the same sense of attachment but to a football club.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:06 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #66
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a) it's not the same level of attachment at all.

b) i think there's plenty of evidence for the existence of football.

I'd stick to car analogies.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:14 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #67
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a) it's not the same level of attachment at all.

b) i think there's plenty of evidence for the existence of football.

I'd stick to car analogies.
Is it not?
So fans are capable of walking away from clubs they've supported for life...?
There are plenty of post in this thread alone that say otherwise.

The existence is not the point here, the levels of belief, devotion and commitment is.
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Your whole argument seems to be ‘I don’t think there’s an attachment so therefore no one else should’.

Religion is a poor example but even then I would never say ‘I’m not religious therefore no one else should be’.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:17 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #69
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by mark g:
a) it's not the same level of attachment at all.

b) i think there's plenty of evidence for the existence of football.

I'd stick to car analogies.
Is it not?
So fans are capable of walking away from clubs they've supported for life...?
There are plenty of post in this thread alone that say otherwise.

The existence is not the point here, the levels of belief, devotion and commitment is. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you support QPR?
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:50 PM   Disgraceful Fans - Does your club have them? Part time pete's also welcomed Post #70
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Yeah, the ****s who sing about the Munich air disaster. No ****ing need for that
Slightly unrelated note in that some Man Utd fan at last years FA Youth Cup final ran 50 yards to tell me that I was a "****ing murdering scouse bastard" before attempting to spit on my mate.
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