retired_gozadera2007

Largely because you were rubbish and no one turned up, I presume?

retired_karansoni21

One point a geordie made on 606 is that booing is the only legitamte way fans have of making their feelings heard.

If they voice them in the press, nothings done. If they email/write to the club, they'll be binned. If they dont voice their dissatisfaction at the games then when can they? I think the booing card is overused, I was glad that the Spurs fans didnt boo at half time when 1-0 to brum (end result not relevant! ) because we were actually all over them.

Sometimes its easy to boo, but its harder to be faithful and get behind the team, especially if you perceive a lack of effort to be the reason why your team is failing.

Ventil

So what are you going to watch football for?

If you're going with the knowledge that you're not going to be entertained and yet are still willing to fork out for a ticket, then more fool you.

You're point about sequels is even more poignant in football terms, although seeing as you've already said that you're willing to go to a game and not be entertained, it seems that you'd be happy to watch crap football week in week out.
Most people wouldn't and so reduced crowd sizes and increased fan dissatisfaction would be the end result.

Whichever way you look at it, it's all about entertainment. You clap and cheer a good passage of play because you've been entertained, you shout vitriol and ire at the players/ref/manager/linesman when things go wrong, as you haven't.
It's as simple as that.

retired_katie14

You're not going with the knowledge either way. You hope you'll be entertained, but you can't know either way until you get there.

Football's not the same as other stuff because it's more than just a business. Some people have supported their clubs for a lifetime and it's more than just turning up for a bit fun.

Would you boo at a boxing match if one of the fighters gets knocked out in the first round?

Ventil

And how does that make it any different to going to the cinema, watching a gig or going to the theatre?

And therein lies the problem, fans are willing to let emotion rule. If we were a little less easily led and a little more savvy we wouldn't put up with half of the stuff that clubs take from us.

The boxing point has no merit, there is the chance that the fight may finish in round one and so you are ready for it. And then another one comes along and you start over again.

retired_katie14

The randomness of sporting events are much greater than those of films / theatre productions etc. At least with a film you get a fair idea beforehand whether you’ll enjoy it or not as it’s very rarely you’ll go into a film without knowing anything about it and even then when it turns out to be crap you’ll grumble about it later rather than start screaming in the middle of the film.

Don’t see how the boxing match is without merit at all as it’s the same principle in that you go to see it with knowing the performance / result is unknown so are accepting the risk that it might not be entertaining.

retired_suzannechua

Disgraceful? Guess not that bad but we have a bunch of shithead kids no older then 16s who jump around infront of the real supporters shed. They have brought flares into the ground on multiple occasions, the odd one fights with police and a couple invaded the pitch few games back.

Saying that, as results picked up so did the behaviour.

Ventil

You still haven't answered the point about entertainment.
You're happily skirting around it alluding to other forms saying it's not the same but you're yet to say why.
If you can give me one valid reason for watching a match that is other than for entertainment reasons I will happily concede the point.

The boxing point has no merit as you are aware that there is a chance that the fight won't go the distance. If the loser is patently not up to the match of his opponent then you have every right to boo, but in this situation you're booing the promoter not the boxer.
Anyway I'm not going to stray on this point as it deflects from the real part of this thread.

retired_katie14

I already said some people have other reasons. Emotional attachment being one. When you’ve been brought up following a club all your life sometimes it isn’t easy to simply not go to the matches just because the football isn’t great.

Match days are a ritual for me because I go for a pint with a mate beforehand who I wouldn’t get to see much otherwise, I sit next to my step-brother who again I wouldn’t see as often, then I meet the lads I used to go to the away matches with at half time and go for a few pints with another couple of lads after the game. If I didn’t go to the matches I’d miss out on so much more than just the football.

Don’t you support QPR?

retired_stribs

does not singing/making any attempts to create an atmosphere/being boring/unimpressed dullards count as a disgrace. if so - then plenty. LOOKS AT BBB.