[retired_felicityh]

Originally posted by Gav Stone:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Juve4EVA:
Orzelek spot on. Just purchased "Calcio" by John Foot. Really looking forward to reading it. Has anyone read "The Miracle of Castel di Sangro"? Might want that too if it is worth it.

Am truly shocked none of you guys have read these books! :eek: Please please please do so now as you will be enlightened, shocked, devasted, delighted and love Italian football even more afterwards. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Come on, you are much older then me ( no offense ), I know more then most my age in the Bedford area.

[retired_hvporter]

Originally posted by Juve4EVA:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gav Stone:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Juve4EVA:
Orzelek spot on. Just purchased "Calcio" by John Foot. Really looking forward to reading it. Has anyone read "The Miracle of Castel di Sangro"? Might want that too if it is worth it.

Am truly shocked none of you guys have read these books! :eek: Please please please do so now as you will be enlightened, shocked, devasted, delighted and love Italian football even more afterwards. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Come on, you are much older then me ( no offense ), I know more then most my age in the Bedford area. </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah but Calcio has only been out just over a year. And don't call me old, you young whipper-snapper you.

[retired_hvporter]

Originally posted by NICK_GIFF:
A Season with Verona &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Miracle of Castel di Sangro

Always been tempted by Calcio but it never looks appealing enough to buy over other books (i'm not generally a sport book reader).

Hi Nick. :thup:

You should give Calcio a read. It may not look the most appetising book, but it is very, very good. I am not a fan of Tim Parks myself (Season with Verona), but his was readable.

My holiday reading is going to be 'The Ball is Round' by David Goldblatt. Unless you can suggest a suitable non-footballing alternative.

[retired_jdupont]

Originally posted by Orzelek:
Meh, making the cup only for Serie A and B teams is crap :thdn:. The cool thing about cup tournaments are the games between top teams and amateurs

I agree.

It became a League Cup now...


What's the official reason for changing the rules like that?

[retired_hvporter]

Originally posted by PMLF:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Orzelek:
Meh, making the cup only for Serie A and B teams is crap :thdn:. The cool thing about cup tournaments are the games between top teams and amateurs

I agree.

It became a League Cup now...


What's the official reason for changing the rules like that? </BLOCKQUOTE>I think Orzelek gave it in the posts above. Tbh the Coppa has been meesed about with so much over the years that it will now never work. They should have gone through with how the competition started the past two seasons, with it being single-match, extra-time and penalties, lowest league side at home all the way from Round 1 to the final.

[retired_jaydeschizo]

Aye, the good old classic cup format is just the best. All teams start in round one, making it possible for small teams to reach quite long in the tournament

[retired_felicityh]

Im bummed that we didn't try that hard last season when it would have been pretty easy to win Serie B and get far in Coppa Italia.

Onto this season and the Chivu saga. Yesterday Chivu was hours away from joining Inter, today Inter close on Chivu, and after Barcelona and Madrid were interested in him this has to be a mess after his agent saying he wants to stay at Roma.

This seasons transfers:

Atalanta
IN: Muslimovic (A, Parma), Ahumada (M, River Plate), Osvaldo (A, Lecce), Guarente (M, Verona), Coppola (G, Milan), De Ascentis (M, Torino), Lazzari (A, Piacenza), Brivio (D, Fiorentina), Langella (M, Cagliari), Floccari (A, Messina)
OUT: Migliaccio (M, Palermo), Donati (M, Milan), Ventola (A, Torino), Consigli (G, Rimini), Loria (D, Siena), Vieri (A, Fiorentina)

Cagliari
IN: Matri (A, Rimini), Larrivey (A, Huracan), Marruocco (G, Foggia), Shala (M, Foggia), Acquafresca (A, Inter), Fini (M, Ascoli), Parola (M, Sampdoria), Magliocchetti (D, Roma), Foggia (M, Lazio)
OUT: Suazo (A, Inter), Pepe (A, Udinese), Chimenti (G, Udinese), Esposito (A, Roma), Langella (M, Atalanta)

Catania
IN: Babù (A, Verona); G Tedesco (M, Reggina), Visone (M, Sambenedettese); Falconieri (A, Brindisi), Gazzola (M, Torres), Del Core (A, Cesena), Anastasi (M, Cesena), Danucci (M, Cesena), Bizzarri (G, Gimnastic Tarragona), Llama (M, Arsenal Sarandi'), Terlizzi (D, Palermo)
OUT: Rossini (A, Livorno), Cesar (D, Chievo), Corona (A, Mantova), Pantanelli (G, Bologna), Danucci (M, Ternana), Lucenti (M, Mantova)

Empoli
IN: Abate (M, Modena), Volpato (A, Juventus), Giovinco (M, Juventus), Antonini (M, Siena), Marchisio (M, Juventus), Piccolo (D, Juventus)
OUT: Lucchini (D, Sampdoria), Almiron (M, Juventus), Matteini (A, Palermo), Coralli (A, Cittadella)

Fiorentina
IN: Mazuch (D, Brno), Vanden Borre (D, Anderlecht), Balzaretti (D, Juventus), Bojinov (A, Juventus), Hable (M, Hradec), Lupoli (A, Arsenal), Matavz (A, Nova Gorica), Caetano (M, Apucarana), Gulan (D, Partizan), Vieri (A, Atalanta), Semioli (M, Chievo)
OUT: Toni (A, Bayern Munich), Reginaldo (A, Parma), Caetano (M, Siena), Brivio (D, Atalanta), Pettinari (M, Reggina)

Genoa
IN: Pegolo (G, Verona), Barasso (G, Taranto), Borriello (A, Milan), Masiello (D, Siena), Paro (M, Juventus), Papa Waigo (A, Cesena), Bovo (D, Palermo)
OUT: Criscito (D, Juventus), Carobbio (M, Albinoleffe)

Inter
IN: Cesar (M, Livorno), Acquafresca (A, Treviso), Suazo (A, Cagliari), Jimenez (M, Lazio), Rivas (D, Inter)
OUT: Gonzalez (M, Palermo), Ribas (A, Livorno), Acquafresca (Cagliari), Grosso (D, Lyon), Belaid (M, Slavia Prague), Carini (G, Murcia)

Juventus
IN: Molinaro (D, Siena), Grygera (D, Ajax), Criscito (D, Genoa), Nocerino (M, Piacenza), Salihamidzic (M, Bayern Munich), Tacchinardi (M, Villarreal); Miccoli (A, Benfica), Iaquinta (A, Udinese), Gastaldello (D, Siena), Almiron (M, Empoli), Tiago (M, Lyon), Olivera (M, Sampdoria), Andrade (D, Deportivo La Coruna)
OUT: Balzaretti (D, Fiorentina), Kovac (D, Borussia Dortmund), Tudor (d, Hajduk Split); Bojinov (A, Fiorentina), Volpe (A, Livorno), Venitucci (M, Treviso), Paro (M, Genoa), Kapo (M, Birmingham), Gastaldello (D, Sampdoria), Mirante (G, Sampdoria), Volpato (A, Empoli), Giovinco (M, Empoli), Miccoli (A, Palermo), De Ceglie (M, Siena), Maniero (A, Ascoli), Tacchinardi (M, contract terminated), Giannichedda (M, contract terminated), Marchisio (M, Empoli), Piccolo (D, Empoli), Bettega (M, Siena)

Lazio
IN: Kolarov (D, Ofk Belgrade); Foggia (M, Reggina), Quadri (M, Spezia), Correa (M, Lucchese), Del Nero (M, Brescia), Scaloni (D, Racing Santander), Meghni (M, Bologna), Carrizo (G, River Plate)
OUT: Peruzzi (G, retired), Sereni (G, Torino), Bonetto (M, Bologna), Foggia (M, Cagliari), Jimenez (M, Inter), S Inzaghi (F, Parma)

Livorno
IN: Mazzoni (G, Lecco); Loviso (M, Sambenedettese), E Filippini (M, Bologna), Ribas (A, Inter), Rossini (A, Catania), Dhorasoo (M, out of contract), Volpe (A, Juventus), Tavano (A, Valencia), Loviso (M, Bologna), De Lucia (G, Parma), Pulzetti (M, Verona), Tristan (A, Deportivo La Coruna)
OUT: Cesar (M, Inter), Kuffour (D, Roma), Fiore (M, Valencia), Pfertzel (D, Bochum), Passoni (M, Mantova), Coppola (M, Messina), Paulinho (A, Grosseto), Morrone (M, Parma), Lucarelli (A, Shakhtar Donetsk)

Milan
IN: Abbiati (G, Torino); Donati (M, Atalanta), Sammarco (M, Chievo), Antonini (M, Siena), Novinic (A, Nafta Lendava), Ba (M, Varese)
OUT: Costacurta (D, retired), Abate (M, Empoli), Borriello (A, Genoa), Donati (M, Celtic), Abbiati (G, Atletico Madrid) Sammarco (M, Sampdoria), Di Gennaro (A, Bologna), Coppola (G, Atalanta), Grimi (D, Siena), Oliveira (A, Zaragoza)

Napoli
IN: Lacrimini (D, Frosinone); Giglio (A, Gallipoli), Hamsyk (M, Brescia), Lavezzi (A, San Lorenzo), Gargano (M, Danubio)
OUT: Giubilato (D, Vicenza)

Palermo
IN: Migliaccio (M, Atalanta), Ujkani (G, Anderlecht), Munari (Verona), Jankovic (M, Real Mallorca), Miccoli (A, Juventus), Gonzalez (M, Inter), Bovo (D, Torino), Matteini (A, Empoli), Rinaudo (D, Siena)
OUT: Corini (M, Torino), Parravicini (M, Parma), Caracciolo (A, Sampdoria), Munari (D, Lecce), Curiale (A, Sambenedettese), Di Michele (A, Torino), Bovo (D, Genoa), Gonzalez (A, Porto), Terlizzi (D, Catania)

Parma
IN: Falcone (D, Sampdoria), M Rossi (D, Modena); Savi (M, Monza), Parravicini (M, Palermo), Reginaldo (A, Fiorentina), Morrone (M, Livorno), S Inzaghi (F, Lazio)
OUT: Grella (M, Torino), Muslimovic (A, Udinese), G. Rossi (A, Man Utd), De Lucia (G, Livorno), Savi (M, Arezzo), Kutuzov (A, Pisa)

Reggina
IN: Pablo Alvarez (D, Nacional Montevideo), Miguel Garcia (D, Sporting Lisbon); Joelson (A, Albinoleffe), Cascione (M, Rimini), Collachioni (D, Pistoiese), Cherubin (D, Cittadella), Kovacsik (G, Labdarugo), Cozza (M, Reggina), Pettinari (M, Fiorentina), Barreto (M, NEC Nijmegen)
OUT: G Tedesco (M, Catania), Foggia (M, Lazio), Missiroli (M, Grosseto), Mesto (D, Udinese), Bianchi (A, Manchester City)

Roma
IN: Alvarez (M, Messina), Brighi (M, Chievo), Pit (M, Bellinzona), Juan (D, Bayer Leverkusen), Kuffour (D, Livorno), Barusso (M, Rimini), Esposito (A, Cagliari), Montella (A, Fulham), Magliocchetti (D, Verona), Giuly (M, Barcelona)
OUT: Wilhelmsson (M, Nantes), Tavano (A, Valencia), Magliocchetti (D, Cagliari), Faty (M, Bayer Leverkusen), Cerci (M, Pisa), Montella (A, Sampdoria), Okaka Chuka (A, Modena), Virga (M, Grosseto)

Sampdoria
IN: Lucchini (D, Empoli), Bellucci (A, Bologna), Caracciolo (A, Palermo), Sammarco (M, Milan), Gastaldello (D, Juventus), Mirante (G, Juventus), Ziegler (M, Tottenham), Antonini (M, Siena), Campagnaro (D, Piacenza), Montella (A, Roma)
OUT: Falcone (D, Parma), Quagliarella (A, Udinese), Bazzani (A, Brescia), Flachi (A, contract terminated)

Siena
IN: Eleftheropoulos (G, Ascoli), Jarolim (M, Slavia Praga), Caetano (M, Fiorentina), De Ceglie (M, Juventus), Grimi (D, Milan), Ficagna (D, Cesena), Loria (D, Atalanta), Bettega (M, Juventus)
OUT: Molinaro (D, Juventus), Gastaldello (D, Juventus), Antonini (M, Empoli), Masiello (D, Genoa), Rinaudo (D, Palermo), Galoppa (M, Roma), Eremenko (M, Udinese), Cozza (M, Reggina), E Brevi (M, Venezia)

Torino
IN: Malonga (A, Monaco), Corini (M, Palermo), Grella (M, Parma), Ventola (A, Atalanta), Bjelanovic (A, Ascoli), P Zanetti (M, Ascoli), Sereni (G, Lazio), Natali (D, Udinese), Di Michele (A, Palermo), Lanna (D, Chievo)
OUT: Gallo (M, Novara), Bovo (D, Palermo), Abbiati (G, Milan), Ardito (M, Lecce), De Ascentis (M, Atalanta), Taibi (G, Ascoli)

Udinese
IN: Handanovic (G, Rimini), Micolucci (D, Bari), Inler (M, Zurigo), Floro Flores (A, Arezzo), Candreva (M, Ternana), Pepe (A, Cagliari), Quagliarella (A, Sampdoria), Chimenti (G, Cagliari), Inler (M, FC Zurich), Paolucci (A, Juventus), Sanchez (A, Colo Colo), Eremenko (M, Siena), Mesto (D, Reggina), Boudianski (M, Ascoli)
OUT: Muntari (M, Portsmouth), Iaquinta (A, Juventus), Natali (D, Torino), De Sanctis (G, Sevilla), Sforzini (F, Vicenza)

And who can forget Antonio:

Cassano takes Real to court?
Wednesday 25 July, 2007
Antonio Cassano could be set to take legal action against Real Madrid according to the latest reports in Spain.

The striker was dropped from the Real squad travelling abroad for pre-season training – officially due to injury – and allegedly refused to attend his planned individual session.

After Fabio Capello’s departure, there seems to be no more space left for the Talentino di Bari Vecchia, as new Coach Bernd Schuster doesn’t consider him to be part of his plans at the Bernabeu.

Spanish newspaper AS reports that Cassano is even considering the idea of taking legal action against Los Blancos, as he believes he is being conned by the Liga champions.

Real are reportedly putting pressure on him to rescind his contract by mutual consent. Cassano is currently contracted until 2012 and Real Madrid would have to pay £8.5m if they were to cancel the deal unilaterally.

The player’s entourage denies that there is any truth in the reports from AS, but the ex-Roma man remains up for sale in Madrid, despite the lack of offers for his services.

AS claims that Real Madrid turned down an offer from Turkish side Fenerbahce last week, while the Italian Press insists he could join Fiorentina, who seem to be Cassano’s only chance of a Serie A return.

[retired_MrScotlander]

For goodness sake. I prefer the old system. When Copa was followed by all teams. When Serie A had only 18 clubs. When ... .

[retired_mayrina]

Originally posted by georginho_juventusygr:
For goodness sake. I prefer the old system. When Copa was followed by all teams. When Serie A had only 18 clubs. When ... .

When Batistuta and Baggio still played in Serie A?

[retired_MrScotlander]

Originally posted by Fe98:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by georginho_juventusygr:
For goodness sake. I prefer the old system. When Copa was followed by all teams. When Serie A had only 18 clubs. When ... .

When Batistuta and Baggio still played in Serie A? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not about it. I mean the system.