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Originally posted by dudley:
What times the draw tomorrow?

11:00, although make that at least half past after UEFA have finished arsing about

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Draw starting soon, if anyone can get UEFA's stream working

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Spartak vs Celtic, should be good

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Very good draw for East Europe

The two Scottish ties should be crackers

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Originally posted by Richie P:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Victor_Renner:
So Shakhtar have a front line of Castillo and Lucarelli to assualt the champions league. Awesome.

Do they still have the 12 foreign players rule in the league?
Just seem to be adding to the foreign players every year. Also, where has Matuzalem gone?

They've changed it so that its now only 8 foreigners allowed in the team + a $15000 fine for each one (and this'll likely go down to 5 allowed soon). Its a good thing, since too many crap foreigners were getting through </BLOCKQUOTE>

7, not 8. And "on the pitch at the same time".

And Castillo won't be playing a striker at Shakhtar - he'll be a AMC. Gladkyj and Lucarelli upfront

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Full draw:

FH Hafnarfjördur or FC BATE Borisov v Zaglebie Lubin or Steaua Bucharest
Tampere United or Levski Sofia v Astana or Rosenborg
Spartak Moscow v CELTIC
Werder Bremen v NK Domzale or Dinamo Zagreb
FK Ventspils or FC Salzburg v Pyunik or Shakhtar Donetsk
Ajax v MSK Zilina or SK Slavia Prague
Valencia v Debreceni or IF Elfsborg
Genk or FK Sarajevo v Dynamo Kiev
Fenerbahce v Anderlecht
RANGERS or FK Zeta v FK Crvena Zvezda or Levadia Tallinn
Toulouse v LIVERPOOL
Benfica v FC Copenhagen or Beitar Jerusalem
Lazio v Dinamo Bucuresti
Sparta Prague v ARSENAL
FC Zurich v Sheriff or Besiktas
Sevilla v AEK Athens

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A few good draws for the Eastern teams, Shakhtar and Kiev should find it relatively easy whilst as previously said, the Celtic v Spartak game should be a cracker!

Anyone got any ideas of a 'shock' result from any of these games?

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Steaua have basically got a walkover

Lazio - Dinamo Bucharest is one to keep a very close eye on, chance of an upset there. Lazio are certainly very beatable

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Originally posted by PMLF:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Richie P:
How long was he there again?

He stayed at Atlético Paranaense for 4 months or so in the first semester in 2006.

There was a rumor he was dating a Brazilian woman, so his wife supposely got furious and he had to return to Europe. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, his wife and kids wouldnt move to either Partizan or Brazil with him so he always had that excuse.
I was surprised to see him move to Slazburg in the first place, but alot of money was involved.
Also surprised he didnt leave sooner, as I think he was linked with manager jobs (including the German iirc). Also thought that Trap might have been keeping the managers seat warm for him.

Replace at Salzburg by another German legend in Thomas Link, who just retired from playing at Salzburg.

This doesnt really fit into the Eatern European thread so sorry if its a bit pointless.

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Lothar used to coach in Eastern Europe with Partizan, so theres our link. Interesting story