[retired_jabda]

Fradi are still there, just missed out on promotion back to the top divison, were second in the Eastern 2nd Divison, the winners of the Western and Eastern Divisons go up, still scum of the earth.

[retired_jabda]

Originally posted by PMLF:
Sopron signed two Hungarian youngsters that were "playing" in Brazil. "Playing" is between inverted commas there because they haevn't really played any game here...

I hope they learned something by playing here.

Remembered the story of them going over, really was a 'what the ****!' moment.

Hungarian football is really, really crap for a number of reasons, surprised their champions still get into the second QR of the CL automactically.

[retired_anneduck]

They just about make it as a seeded team, not anymore after this year probably

Have a look at their coefficients for the past few years, their football is in serious, serious trouble. Only Honved will be left as well after this week

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"># country 03/04 04/05 05/06 06/07 07/08 rank08 nt081 Spain 14.312 12.437 15.642 19.000 0.750 62.141 8/ 82 England 11.250 15.571 14.428 16.625 0.750 58.624 8/ 83 Italy 8.875 14.000 15.357 11.928 1.125 51.285 8/ 84 France 13.500 11.428 10.812 10.000 0.857 46.597 7/ 75 Romania 4.333 5.500 16.833 11.333 0.200 38.199 5/ 56 Germany 4.714 10.571 10.437 9.500 0.857 36.079 7/ 77 Netherlands 5.416 12.000 7.583 8.214 0.500 33.713 6/ 68 Russia 5.875 10.000 10.000 6.625 0.750 33.250 4/ 49 Portugal 10.250 8.166 5.500 8.083 0.857 32.856 7/ 710 Ukraine 4.875 8.100 5.750 6.500 0.250 25.475 4/ 411 Scotland 7.375 4.750 4.250 6.750 0.250 23.375 4/ 412 Turkey 6.500 5.375 4.000 6.100 0.250 22.225 4/ 413 Belgium 5.875 6.125 5.500 4.700 0.000 22.200 4/ 414 Bulgaria 4.166 2.375 8.750 5.125 0.500 20.916 4/ 415 Czech Republic 7.375 2.875 4.625 5.750 0.125 20.750 4/ 416 Greece 4.166 6.166 3.333 4.666 0.500 18.831 6/ 617 Switzerland 1.875 2.625 9.375 4.100 0.375 18.350 4/ 418 Norway 6.125 3.500 5.400 2.000 1.200 18.225 4/ 519 Denmark 4.200 1.500 3.500 6.125 0.875 16.200 4/ 420 Serbia 4.500 4.250 3.250 2.125 1.500 15.625 3/ 421 Austria 2.125 7.625 3.250 1.500 0.600 15.100 5/ 522 Israel 2.250 3.625 1.500 6.000 0.250 13.625 4/ 423 Slovakia 2.500 1.333 4.333 2.000 1.666 11.832 3/ 324 Hungary 4.833 4.166 1.000 1.000 0.666 11.665 2/ 325 Poland 4.125 2.500 1.125 2.625 0.833 11.208 3/ 326 Slovenia 2.166 3.500 2.333 1.250 0.666 9.915 1/ 327 Sweden 1.500 3.000 2.666 1.125 1.600 9.891 5/ 528 Croatia 3.625 3.000 0.333 1.000 1.833 9.791 3/ 329 Cyprus 1.333 1.333 3.000 1.750 1.666 9.082 2/ 330 Finland 1.666 1.666 2.333 1.333 1.875 8.873 4/ 431 Latvia 0.833 3.166 1.333 2.166 1.000 8.498 2/ 332 Bosnia 1.666 1.666 1.500 1.833 1.666 8.331 3/ 3</pre>

[retired_noramae]

Red Star survive by the skin of their teeth

[hanouda]

What are Steaua's chances tonight against the hitherto unknown Poles?

[retired_anneduck]

Very good, winning 1-0 already from the away game, they should progress. Plus then they have the easiest of 3QR draws possible

[retired_anneduck]

Red Star really are pretty rubbish away from home then it seems, they'll need a decent result at Ibrox next week

[retired_anneduck]

Zenit 8-3 Dinamo in the Russian Cup :thup: , now thats a game

[retired_jabda]

Didn't know the Romanians were ahead of Germany now in the co-efficients, shows what a crappy country can do.

[retired_tam5868]

next year (or if not, the year after), there may be as many as 7 romanian clubs in europe
think maybe even 2 automatically in the CL group stages.

lucarelli and castillo together in the same team is one plenty of managers would dream of. they could do very well in the CL groups (if they get there).

a few very interesting 3QR ties and there might be some odd teams in the group stage if there are a couple of shocks, tampere, sarajevo for example.