[retired_the gizmo]

Originally posted by JK Galgreefe:
ok i have a question.

why does clinton poll so many unfavourables? in other words, why do people either love her or hate her?

goes back to bill's term in the white house. conservatives hated her line about being co-presidents, her "arrogance" about championing universal healthcare and her willingness to speak out against bias in the media (she coined the phrase "vast right-wing conspiracy").

many progressives and leftists hate her because she refuses to apologize for her iraq war vote, she's part of the dlc (a democratic group of "centrists" that are claimed to mirror many republican policies) and will take 150 polls before announcing which way she stands on an issue.

[retired_jennifer89889]

Ain't nobody trying to give Newt Gingrich some. l don't give a f**k, you ain't never gonna hear Newt Gingrich go: ''Man, l wish these hoes would back up off me. I wish they would just back the f**k up off me. Let a player play, s**t!'

[runronnirun]

what does 'gop' stand for? i think i asked this before and got an answer, but my goldfish-like memory excels itself once more

[retired_the gizmo]

Originally posted by San:
It is simply waaaaaaaaaaaaay too early for this. I won't even care in December.

your privilege and I can't really dispute you for it. on the other hand, as I said earlier, this election is historic in its importance and the early candidacies. hopefully this thread could act as a clearinghouse for tidbits of news so you won't have to wade through dozens of 4 and 5 reply threads.

[retired_the gizmo]

Originally posted by Nick OGS20:
what does 'gop' stand for? i think i asked this before and got an answer, but my goldfish-like memory excels itself once more

grand old party

[retired_jennifer89889]

Originally posted by Nick OGS20:
what does 'gop' stand for? i think i asked this before and got an answer, but my goldfish-like memory excels itself once more

"Grand Old Party" iirc.

[retired_the gizmo]

Originally posted by Moreclaw:
Isn't McCain a bit old to be a serious candidate? Isn't he 70? Even if you agree with his politics, at that age i'd be put off voting for him.

Then again, if he's still mentally with it then there's nothing to say he'd have to go for a 2nd term should he win the first time round.

I'll make the prediction of Guiliani winning the Republican nomination and Obama is the Democrat's nominee. Guiliani wins the presidency quite comfortably as surely Guiliani's policies would interest a fair amount of Democrats and he's quite a bit more experienced then Obama which IMO will see him through.

it's a concern since his health isn't as good as perceived publicly due to the torture and conditions of his imprisonment in vietnam.

a 1-term deal with the vp piggybacking off of him might be likely, but he is singularly focused on becoming the president and I doubt this will slow him down enough to matter.

he's also not that much older than reaganwhen he took office and reagan's the gop's patron saint.

giuliani's biggest problem is going to be the primaries. conservative blogs are up in arms just about him dressing up in drag as a gag on a sort if hignfy-type show.

[retired_jennifer89889]

Top Gear teaches me that the south needs to chill a bit.

Honestly though, I don't see how dressing up in drag for TV would make the slightest difference to anything - I can't see how anyone would think it would effect the sort of president he would be. It's not as if he's made a career out of being a US Lily Savage.

[retired_lphipps]

Originally posted by Moreclaw:
...I'll make the prediction of Guiliani winning the Republican nomination and Obama is the Democrat's nominee. Guiliani wins the presidency quite comfortably as surely Guiliani's policies would interest a fair amount of Democrats and he's quite a bit more experienced then Obama which IMO will see him through.

I disagree with the prediction of any Republican winning quite comfortably: the whole party is stained in the eyes of many Democrats, and I don't think even Guiliani will be able to distance himself sufficiently from the Bush presidency.

Right now I think the Dem. candidacy is between Clinton and Obama. Of the two I would prefer Obama, who seems more prone to independent thought. And I think the Dem. candidate will win.

Is there any real chance of Powell being involved?

[retired_jennifer89889]

I'm counting on Guiliani's personal cross party popularity seeing him through, rather then counting on solely the fact that he's running as a Republican.

There's almost 2 years until the election, plenty of time for the situation to recover a bit for the Republicans.