[retired_Christia17]

Didn't hate Rose in series one Go-Go. I just think the writers ran out of ideas for her for series 2 and the whole lovey-dovey stuff became too prominent at the expense of the action. My biggest regret with Rose is that they didn't killer her off and given the kids their own Adric moment.

[brianjohn]

Originally posted by gavnoble:
Didn't hate Rose in series one Go-Go. I just think the writers ran out of ideas for her for series 2 and the whole lovey-dovey stuff became too prominent at the expense of the action. My biggest regret with Rose is that they didn't killer her off and given the kids their own Adric moment.

That probably would have had a better impact yeh.

I just love BP too much to be objective Still think Rose was awesome though.

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Rose Needed To Die & Tbh there was a massive plot hole that stopped her dying(completely willing to be proved wrong with it though)

Pete jumped between universes, so had the energy transfer on him

no way he could have timed the jump accurately to save her with a self timer
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been able to press the button before he was sucked into the void, as with rose she also had the energy all over her

[retired_juampablo13]

Whilst I wouldn't go as far as to say that season two was "weak", seasons 1 and 3 both feel as though they are much stronger units. Season 1 was made on the assumption that it may have been the only one, so deliberately told a self-contained story. Season 2, on the other hand, seems to have had a couple of production "niggles" that clearly affected the flow. The first of which was Billie being able to stay for the whole series rather than leaving halfway through. Hence the dynamic between Rose and the Doctor changing after the Cybermen stories.

Also, the much maligned "Fear Her" was a last-minute, zero budget replacememt for the Stephen Fry story, which I have no doubt would have been fantastic.

Now with season 3, it seems as though a settled production has allowed them to raise the bar again, and with Season Four apparently settled, things are looking promising for that as well.

What this does show is that when RTD does move on, the transition to the new production team has to be as smooth and as settled as possible. In fact I'd hope that the process has, in some way, already begun.

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Originally posted by Matt K:
Also, the much maligned "Fear Her" was a last-minute, zero budget replacememt for the Stephen Fry story, which I have no doubt would have been fantastic.

is his story being shown?
thought it was moved to this year

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*being shown next

[brianjohn]

Gav - or anyone else who watched the "old school".

Was just wondering about the whole "regeneration" thing, of the nine (?) times the Doctor has died what have been the circumstances, and how many times have the same enemy (I would think the Daleks) killed him?

Cheers.

[2boxers]

Originally posted by Go-Go:
Gav - or anyone else who watched the "old school".

Was just wondering about the whole "regeneration" thing, of the nine (?) times the Doctor has died what have been the circumstances, and how many times have the same enemy (I would think the Daleks) killed him?

Cheers.

i know

Patrick Trouton into John Pertwee was a forced regeneration by the timelords irrc

John Pertwee > Tom Baker was due to a mortal wound on planet of the spiders (?)

Sylvester McCoy into Paul McGann was due to being shot by an LA gang

[brianjohn]

Originally posted by Jearm84:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Go-Go:
Gav - or anyone else who watched the "old school".

Was just wondering about the whole "regeneration" thing, of the nine (?) times the Doctor has died what have been the circumstances, and how many times have the same enemy (I would think the Daleks) killed him?

Cheers.

i know

Patrick Trouton into John Pertwee was a forced regeneration by the timelords irrc Oooh that sounds interesting, what had he done?

John Pertwee &gt; Tom Baker was due to a mortal wound on planet of the spiders (?)

Sylvester McCoy into Paul McGann was due to being shot by an LA gang haha wtf, hard to imagine any of the newer doctors being killed by something that...mundane? </BLOCKQUOTE>

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<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow. 1. First Doctor: apparently succumbed to old age, steadily growing weaker throughout The Tenth Planet and collapsing at the serial's end. Although the writer's intent was that this was due to the energy drain from the planet Mondas, this was not made clear in the transmitted story. 2. Second Doctor: a forced "change in appearance" and exile to Earth by the Time Lords in the closing moments of The War Games.[5] 3. Third Doctor: radiation poisoning from the Great One's cave of crystals at the end of Planet of the Spiders. 4. Fourth Doctor: fell from the Pharos Project radio telescope in Logopolis. 5. Fifth Doctor: spectrox toxaemia, contracted near the start of The Caves of Androzani. 6. Sixth Doctor: suffered unspecified injuries when the Rani attacked the TARDIS and caused it to crash land at the start of Time and the Rani.[6] 7. Seventh Doctor: died in San Francisco during exploratory heart surgery by a doctor unfamiliar with Time Lord physiology, after being hospitalised for non-life threatening gunshot wounds in the 1996 television movie. 8. Eighth Doctor: not revealed as yet.[7] 9. Ninth Doctor: cellular degeneration caused by absorbing the energies of the space-time vortex from Rose, which she in turn had absorbed through the heart of the TARDIS in The Parting of the Ways. </pre>