retired_fineat42

Mine or eric's?

If you mean mine then tell me why influencing Arsenal's attack game after game propelling them into their best ever PL start isn't a good reason? Or don't you think Fabregas has been that influential?

Also, plenty of players have played good CL finals without influencing their team's domestic season/league, which at the root of it all is the most important trophy for any club.

retired_monica90

He hasn't "basically carried he team to where it is at the moment." That simply isn't true. As mentioned he's had a good season but had some very quiet games too.

retired_fineat42

Who has been more vital to the team and its creativity than him then? Every player has an off day ffs. Fabregas has had very few of them.

retired_monica90

ALEX HLEB

retired_fineat42

We'll just have to agree to disagree there, Asmo. Hleb has been great, but has he got the goals as well as the assists Cesc has had? That weighs it in Cesc's favour imo.

retired_nini59

if other players have been great then he's hardly "carried" them has he? regardless of whether he's been their best player or not.

retired_fineat42

His goals and assists would field a strong case against that, but it is a matter of opinion, and I may have used slightly too strong a word in "carry". Hleb has played very well, but Cesc has been instrumental while also contributing vital goals.

retired_littlegoldielocks

gerrard has done, and continues to do both obv making him a more complete and influential (if admittedly, less talented) midfielder than both :*)

retired_monica90

Was being tongue-in-cheek there really, you set it up so nicely for me. Cesc/Hleb, tough to call probably the former overall so you're right there.

I don't think you can cite Arsenal's decent start as a reason for Cesc being better than Iniesta- far too many other factors involved.

retired_StayLove

Basically Maher >>> Fabregas >>>> Iniesta