TheSchnaz

I am trying to do a superleague with teams from old U.S.S.R nations. For a start I am doing it with Russian leagues, but I think I need a bigger - and warmer - league to do this. I also need some opinions, I don't have too many experienced with league swapping.

This is what I've got so far :
1. I played Dinamo Tbilisi in the Second Division (with Ekranas, Sheriff, Pakhtakor etc.). And my players got tired in June like they are in Summer holiday, in fact it's a madly busy Russian week. One of my striker end up with 3% of condition, he must be dead by then. I think we have to be careful with the league starting month when chosing a league to swap for a super league, a team from different league might get it hilariously wrong. Oh yes, there are rumours too that my contract would not be renewed after I played solely 3 games and winning 2 of them and drawing one with Torpedo in Moscow.
2. Dinamo Tbilisi is still alive in UEFA Cup and Soviet Cup by the end of the year. In about November, Dinamoeli played EVERYDAY for 10 days running. Again, my resurrected strikers went down to 3% (I don't have enough players to cover everyone), dead again.
3. Teams from Asia has big reputation in the editor but in the game they hardly worth a half of it. I (mis)placed Pakhtakor in the Premier Division, they finished the season with glorious 6 points from 30 games. I think Qyzylqum fared about two points better in my division, in the editor it looks far better than most Baltic teams which constantly bully it in the game.
4. Same old promotion/relegation problems: only Russian team promoted to the second division. I tried to get a way round it by setting all unplayable Third Division teams nation to Russian, although they are actually non Russian teams. But to get the right nationalities of the future playes (so Ararat Yerevan, now from Russia, would still have Armenian regens), I shutup their academy and instead linked them to teams from the actual countries with excellent youth setup (for example, Ararat is a parent club with the same board to a smaller Armenian club with good youth setup, the players of these two clubs can move freely). I don't know if this regens trick will work. Anyone?
4. Still related to the links between clubs with same boards but with different nationalities. I think I don't have to check the "financial help" option, because I found out Neftci Baku had to pay annual fee of 2.5M pounds to its Azeri feeder, it happens to all fake Russian clubs of the third division. I imagined that they have to sell everything to be able to fulfil that obligation, or maybe the smaller club will cancel the links (like Zimbru-2 cancel the links with Zimbru because Zimbru is not rich enough, that doesn't sound too realistic).

I think I'll have to look at the fat French or English leagues system now and see if I am patience enough to mess with it in the editor, at least their competition does end about June.

Any suggestion or recommendation, or exprerience, about making a super C.I.S league would be much appreciated.

retired_Jeet

Try Ukraine? The Belgian league might be an option too? If you get this working please post this as I'd love to play in the Soviet league.

retired_firebear369

I've got my own Soviet league setup, based on the 1989 season, I've been working on. I can't say I've experienced any of the problems you're having to be honest. After the first season when I tested it, I got 2 Estonian, 1 Russian, 1 Kazakh and 1 Uzbek side going up to the First Division, and poor Pamir Tushanbe were getting annihalated in every match after relegation from the Premier.

retired_Jeet

What league did you use? Any chance of an upload at all?

retired_firebear369

What league did you use? Any chance of an upload at all? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I actually used Russia, and I'm in the process of uploading it now.

retired_firebear369

Ok, I've got it up here.

retired_Jeet

Thanks, I'll check it out later. Great work.

TheSchnaz

Glad to hear someone did it well.
EmperorJ, what team did you manage in that league? Maybe it's only Dinamo Tbilisi (or other Georgian team) who has problem with midseason incongruity, I didn't see it happen to other club either. Their physical conditions stays normal, meanwhile all the season ending stuffs (season reviews, board appraisal, etc.) happens in July in my team.

And that you didn't have all-Russian promotion problem, well, lucky you, I can only wonder how you did that, I didn't know that such a good thing could even happen. I'm on the first season again now, with some tweaking in the third division, and see what'll happen.

Btw, I chose Russian league because - obviously - it has lots of Russian teams you don't have to swap, and second because it has a good looking second league (first division), with 22 teams and a relatively short duration. It'll look very colorful when you throw some teams from up to 15 different nations playing at least twice a week, it's fun as long as you have a big squad. It's a very involving league, remind me of the frantic English Second and Third Division in some older version of the game. You'll be almost as sad as relieved when you get out of it with promotion.
The top league however look a bit more dull if you stick to something realistic, such as mine with 12 Russian teams and 4 Ukrainians in it, but I don't want to put any poor lamb ever again like in my first version.

Another funny thing, poor bigger Ukrainian clubs wastes a lot of their imports with the strict league restriction, like Brandao or Srna play very little minute in a whole season, and I don't mind it at all. I have already made everyone from the 15 former Soviet nations available to play as non foreigners in the country he currently plays in, that doesn't seem to be helping enough for Shakhtar and Kyiv.

I'm still trying to download EmperorJ's league, something's wrong with my connection here, it's been hours now.

I will upload my league, probably tomorrow, as soon as I see the second season with non-Russian team (or fake non-Russian team) get promoted to the lowest playable division.
Cheers

retired_jlynn

sorry, but can you write the list with the teams, you have included. i´m also interested, but want to see first if the team i want to control is there maybe you can make suggestions from which country is it, reading my name.lol

TheSchnaz

I based my team selection from the reputation of the club in the FM editor, regardkess the actual achievements of them. So, if my guessing is right, I have to tell you that Pyunik is the only club that can make it to the playable division, I can't find space for others. Am I right?
I also chose not to put more than 4 non-Russian team per nation in one league, I think it's the safest option for the league to work.

I'm not with my FM now, so I can't look them up, but I'll try to memorize the clubs:
The Premier Division consisted of 12 of 16 actual Premiership Russian teams, plus Dynamo Kyiv, Metalurgs, Shakhtar, and Dnipro.
The very enjoyable first division consisted of - among others - MTZ and BATE from Belarus (I believe it's three, can't remember the other other one, Dynamo Minsk I guess), Levadia and Flora from Estonia, Ekranas and another from Lithuania (possibly Kaunas), Skonto and Ventspils from Latvia, Pakhtakor and Qyzylqum from Uzbekistan, Dinamo Tbilisi from Georgia, Sheriff from Moldova, and Pyunik. In addition there are three Ukrainian clubs (I can only remember Chernomorets Odessa now) and several Russians (Kuban, Spartak Nalchik, and Torpedo Moscow among others). Several nations don't have a team in the playable division simply because none of their clubs have big enough reputation in the FM Editor, they'd be beaten hard if I did put them in the league, ask EmperorJ about that.

O.K, I can't give you the complete list immediately, but at least you can see if your team is there or not. Or maybe, if it's not there already, you can wait for the second year hoping it will get promotion from the lower league