retired_dellydoolittle

FREE ROLE

I can't understand this. when striker is set to play Free Role, you can see him play FR. plays out off position; comes deep (in att, also in defence), moves into chanels, very nice.

then you set your winger on FR (in my case bentley an gamst pedersen), and you would expect the same, you also give him nice amount of Creative Freedom and you think, wooow this is gonna be something, lol. what happens? nothing. they still stand up front and wait. you would ecpect of your wingers especialy on FR to come deep for the ball, to central positions to other flank maybe, but no they stick to their position.

in the un patched version FR was working much better then now, still not like it should, but ok, I've seen my winger come to other flank actually.

now, my point is not to complain (but I did probably). if somebody knows smth I don't, I would apriciate to share it here.

retired_meagw1479

I think iv got to agree, in that whenever i set a player to a free role, i do not notice anything different in their movement. IRL you see players roaming all over the pitch. If u set a player like cristiano rolnaldo on a free role, you see him playing on the left ( even alongside the designated left winger), on the right, and everywhere. However, in FM, this is not the case. I feel SI have to improve on the free role.

retired_dellydoolittle

only position there is difference with FR is striker (what I noticed).

I want to know what people say, who play their MC and AMC on FR.

firefighterhilf

I'm not disagreeing that their may be a problem as I've not used free roles enough to say either way but I'd just like to throw this fact in.

Every player has a hidden 'free role' attribute. This basically determines how well they will respond to being given a free role. It may just be that your wingers have a low value in this attribute and therefore don't utilise their free role very well.

retired_quikity

I honestly think that everyone is expecting too much from the FR option. I think that the game will be coded so that all players will play in the position they have been given and their individual players settings!

To give them a FR would not mean that they will just completely ignore their position and instruction and play where ever they fancied.

I think it would just give them license to use their prefered moves, not track back, shot when they want, cross when they want, etc....

I really dont think it would mean that they would turn up on the left wing when he is playing on the right, like the examples given above. The game is deep but not as deep as Fergie saying exactly what he wants Ronaldo to do during the game!

retired_dellydoolittle

bentley 18, gamst 18...

retired_dellydoolittle

I honestly think that everyone is expecting too much from the FR option. I think that the game will be coded so that all players will play in the position they have been given and their individual players settings!

To give them a FR would not mean that they will just completely ignore their position and instruction and play where ever they fancied.

I think it would just give them license to use their prefered moves, not track back, shot when they want, cross when they want, etc....

I really dont think it would mean that they would turn up on the left wing when he is playing on the right, like the examples given above. The game is deep but not as deep as Fergie saying exactly what he wants Ronaldo to do during the game! </BLOCKQUOTE>

you are right, I know what you mean. but believe me strikers is playing free role, I don't know why wingers is not.

firefighterhilf

bentley 18, gamst 18... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Fair enough, as I said I wasn't trying to say there wasn't an issue. Just offering one possible reason for it.

Does anyone have any idea exactly what giving a player a free role means? I thought it meant they would roam around the pitch a bit more and be slightly more unpredictable. But if this is the case what dictates where they will roam to?

Like Henry in real life often drifted out to the left wing because this was his preference. In the game what would determine this? If you gave Henry a free role would he drift out to the left side of the pitch more than normal?

retired_quikity

I honestly think that everyone is expecting too much from the FR option. I think that the game will be coded so that all players will play in the position they have been given and their individual players settings!

To give them a FR would not mean that they will just completely ignore their position and instruction and play where ever they fancied.

I think it would just give them license to use their prefered moves, not track back, shot when they want, cross when they want, etc....

I really dont think it would mean that they would turn up on the left wing when he is playing on the right, like the examples given above. The game is deep but not as deep as Fergie saying exactly what he wants Ronaldo to do during the game! </BLOCKQUOTE>

you are right, I know what you mean. but believe me strikers is playing free role, I don't know why wingers is not. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe this is due to the fact that FR is really only used in football for strikers or attacking midfielders. Positions that wont largely effect the balance of the team.

A winger is a much more vulnerable position for this. If the left winger turns up on the right side, you team wont have the right balance and likely to be exploited down the left. If a striker was to drop deep it would just creat an extra man in midfield and not leave the side exposed.

I believe this would have been written into the game as football basics.

retired_dellydoolittle

that is preffered move, it is the next thing I'll write about.

free role should mean what it sais. to play out off position, not out off pich, of course. lol

now seriously, IRE all the best players are given the FR. why? becouse by giving them FR you are giving them freedom to move up the pitch like they want. of course you want ronaldinho to perticipate freely on attacks. you probably don't want him to hide in the corner and wait. and that is the main reason.

also by giving a FR you would also like him enough Creative Freedom to do with and without the ball what your free role wants.

we all agree that wenger is a great manager. but he wasn't such a player. when he gives Cesc FR, he trusts in his flair, creativty, decisons as he knows that there is more then just pure tactics in football. he hopes Cesc's unpredictiability can win him a match.

adversably there are managers who want their players to play exactly to their tactics, but even those give, at least one of their players some freedom, just becouse football is unpredictable game.