sherm

This is my first post on the forum, and I have had this idea of a challenge for a while, and was discussing it with my friend. We were going to try it but I'd like to get other peoples opinions first. I think it would be fun, and also a really testing challenge to try to complete. It might be rather time-consuming but I think it would depend on the manager you choose

Walking with the Gods Challenge

Pick a manager of your choice (preferably one with relative success, e.g. Ferguson, Shankly, Clough, Robson etc) and follow their exact career paths, trying to emulate/beat their achievements

Step 1 - Start with your manager of choice and take control of their first club, matching their achievements (or bettering them) There is no official time limit but it would be good if you did it in same amount of time as them

[b]Step 2[/B - Once that is completed, take control of their next club and again guide the at least the same success as they had during their tenure there. Repeat this process up until career is complete, or to the present day if the person is still managing

The only regulations are that if at any stage you are sacked from a club before the achievements are matched you must restart the challenge. If stage is complete but you are just trying to beat it and get sacked, that is acceptable.

Ideally, you must wait till job opportunities open up at the next club you need, during which time you can either stay at the club you are managing or be unemployed

If you are following the path of a manager who has never managed the national side (Ferguson or Clough for example) then you may take the National job at any time during the game, but only if offered or you have applied for the vacant position. If your man has been in charge of the national side you must wait for the right time to take over

Would anyone be interested in this or is it not of interest to anyone? If people have suggestions to improve it then feel free, I am always happy to listen to criticism. If the need be then any suggestions how I could improve my efforst would also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Nick

ryanWXM

Sounds like a good challenge, might try it after i do my challenge
What are the leagues just England? and what database do we use?

goonerjk

Doing it as Brian Clough would be one hell of a journey. Back to back European cup trophies with Notts Forest as well as the Prem with Derby. :eek:


But all in all a good challenge.
I've noted that there are some similar ones down the page. Fergie,Wenger, even Sam Allardyce and they've all got some interested parties. I guess this could also be extended into European football and further afield such as Trappatoni,Lippi,Herrera,Carlos Alberto. Or even further afeild with Shu Kamo and Li Yingfa



Imo the Cloughie challenge would be an awesome one.

Hartlepool: October 1965 - May 1967
Derby County: June 1967 - October 1973.
Brighton And Hove Albion: November 1973 - July 1974;
Leeds Utd: 44 days in 1974.
Nottingham Forest: January 1975 - May 1993.

Achievements

League champions, 1971-72(Derby County), 1977-78(Nottingham Forest),
League Cup, 1977-78, 1978-79, 1988-89, 1989-90(Nottingham Forest),
European Cup, 1978-79, 1979-80(Nottingham Forest), Semi-Finalists with Derby(!)
Watney Cup, 1970-71(Derby County), Anglo-Scot Cup, 1976-77(Nottingham Forest),
Super Cup, 1979-80(Nottingham Forest), Simod Cup, 1988-89,
ZDS Cup, 1991-92(Nottingham Forest).

He has also received 24 managerial awards including Manager of the year in 1978


Team Games Won Lost Drawn
Nottm Forest 907 411 250 246
Leeds 7 1 3 3
Brighton 32 12 12 8
Derby 289 135 84 70
Hartlepool 84 35 36 13

TOTAL : 1319 544 385 340

Sorry to have filled up your thread with my ideas Sherm. I did get a bit carried away when looking up potential 'Gods' to try the challenge with

Jimbokav1971

This sounds like an excellent idea, but unfortunately may not work in FM07.

There seems to be a problem with job offers relating to reputation when you start at the bottom.

Fergie was a professional footballer, so that would work, Cloughie may even have been an International before he was injured, (unsure). Not sure about the likes of Shankley/Paisley.

Anyway, excellent idea, I just think that as a challenge it would be a struggle because of the lack of job offers.

If you set the reputation as an International footballer to avoid this, you are making the challenge too easy in the early stages.

sifrow

ferguson

sifrow

Shankley

Years Club App (Gls)*
1932-1933 Carlisle United 16 (0)
1933-1939 Preston North End 296 (13)

National team
1938-1944 Scotland 5 (0)

Teams managed
1949-1951 Carlisle United
1951-1954 Grimsby Town
1954-1955 Workington
1956-1959 Huddersfield Town
1959-1974 Liverpool

1962 Second Division champions
1964 First Division champions
1965 FA Cup Winners, European Champions' Cup semi-finalists.
1966 First Division champions, European Cup Winners Cup beaten finalists.
1969 First Division runners-up.
1971 FA Cup beaten finalists, Inter-Cities Fairs Cup semi-finalists.
1973 First Division champions, UEFA Cup winners.
1974 FA Cup winners, First Division runners-up.

sherm

Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated

ryanwxm - it depends on which manager you choose as to which leagues you have, for example with Clugh you would need just english leagues, but with ferguson you would need scottish aswell, and with robson you need spanish (for barcelona)

goonerjk - dont worry about adding your own ideas, all feedback is appreciated. I thought the Clough challenge would be awesome, although a little time-consuming, especially the Nottingham Forest part. Going abroad would be fine, but it is a case of finding thye achievements. A good way to do this would be to look at the FM hall of fame and go from there, judging who is a god, and who you want to emulate

Jimbokav1971 - I have heard about the problems with being offered jobs on fm07, so maybe fm06 would work? also, the challenge could be adapted/shortened, and maybe taken up in the later stages, for example just doing the Liverpool stage in the Shankley challenge, as this seems to me to be his most successful period, or with Clough just doing the Forest part of the challenge for example. As Sifrow says, Shankley was a professional footballer so that could work. Maybe just using ex-pro footballers as a basis for the challenge

Sifrow - The information provided is useful, and would help in deciding a manager to be in the challenge (personally I wouldnt pick ferguson but others may chhose to. It would involve me managing Man United, something I couldnt bring myself to do due to my disdain for them) but Id love to have a go at Shankley or Clough's careers

Thanks all for your feedback. If anybody would like to try the challenge then let me know, as I'm going to try it, experiment and see if its possible, and I will keep you updated on the progress, if there is any

ryanWXM

what about the database?

sherm

Again it would depend on your own personal preference. There is no restriction on players who you can buy or anything so the database is entirely your choice

kasorazbiva4

Sherm, I think this is a challenge that I would definitely try, but when I finish my career with Lokomotiv Sofia. I would love to emulate some of the greatest Bulgarian managers or my personal favourites Hidink and Del Bosque.