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Old 12-30-2003, 12:09 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #141
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ok i have this idea it will sound complicated but bear with me.

The communtiy is small IMO but i would like a list of say 6 reliable hosts to host a one off finals challenge once a week.

The host will allow only 6 clan members including himself to participate. the remaining 10 places if filled to be non clan members. Now remember the host will be providing a service on a rota basis. The challenge will be played on the same day at the same time every week. Its irrelevent whether we fill all 10 spots or not, the game will be like the no 10 bus at the same spot at the same time every week, if 1 passenger gets on or 10 passengers get on it will still move


This game will not go down at any time, communication and good organisation is paramount. if a host cannot make it on his designated week he has to arrange cover for himself by first talking to the other hosts on the list and if they cant cover, the community admin will arrange for a host to cover.

There will not be any applications but there will be a thread. A mirc room will be set up, anyone who wants to play will just be in the room 15mins before the kick off, the host will govern all decisions in the room. After each tourney the host will post a list of the players who participated in said game, each player will then post a small brief summary of how they found the game on this thread.

The 6 clan members involved will be responsible for setting an example and for easing and aiding the non clan members. The rewards they will get are simple they will be able to met new players outwith their own clan games and also be able to play games against other clan members which they dont on a normal basis.

I have thought about this long and hard taking into account the various points raised in this threasd regarding drop in games. This would work. What do you think?
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:11 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #142
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yep good idea Alex,
I wouldn't have a problem hosting btw.
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:26 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #143
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Good idea Mr X

Seems a good way to get people involved.

Had a quick think about this and I'm curious to see how you see it working.

1, A new game each week. Host has to reset up (or use a re made save game). The 5 clan members join in as well and off you go. I found that pre-seaosn is usually slow and tedious and you don't get to play matches. If you holiday the game forward to matches then you miss out on transfers between humans which is dufferent to computer transfers.

2. Use a pre existing save game from within clan. New people join in as and when necessary. This might mean that the league becomes a bit unbalanced, but is this a better way to go.

What happens next?

Overall I think this is a better way to go than a 2one off tourney but I'm curious to see how you see the game developing.
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:29 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #144
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Blind, I believe these weekly games will be based around a World Cup or Euro Championship.
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:31 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #145
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Looks like a decent proposal Alex, I'd certainly be willing to host if needed
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:36 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #146
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to add in depth to the suggestion, the 6 hosts between them would have 2 saved game templates with all ddt data relvent to the game included.

the rostered host would appear in the mirc room 30mins before kick off. Will make a decision on what template to use. Will delegate teams on his say so to players as they arrive.

Whether one player turns up or sixteen the host plays the game as per.

After the tourney the host does his admin work reporting on the thread.

Nice work PM7 for this addition
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:43 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #147
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I like this idea a lot. Give new players the chance to come in, experience online play, and if they dont like it, then they can leave, and woth no long term commitment, they havent upset anyone, and they can always have another wee go in the future.

Mind you, once you've played online, you're hooked
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Old 12-30-2003, 01:21 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #148
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Dogs I think you are showing very good leadership qualities here. You have canvassed the opinion of members and now are getting down to making a decision. In saying that I'm not trying to lick your arse, (God forbid! :eek: ) but to give credit where credit is due.

Having read the recent thread I think what you are getting down to is a decent marriage between the weekly meeting and the idea of a drop in game. As Peacemaker7 says, once you play online you are largely hooked. While I was playing online a lot before you introduced me to UCMIG, (albeit it was an unfortunately short experience), I cannot deny that the pressure/excitement of testing myself against all you guys was great. I still remember to this day, the elation when Kewell scored that equaliser at Old Trafford to bring me back from 3-0 down, to 3-3 in my first game. This idea is good to introduce new people to the challenge and the banter.

However, I still have to emphasise two points. Firstly, I think the welcome thread is essential and in here you could point the new players towards the weekly game you are proposing.

It would be important in these games/meetings to emphasise the trials and tribulations of online play, while boosting the positives. Perhaps time should be set aside for a "speech", (which you were good at). I repeat, not an emphasis on rules but on the realities and indeed benefits of online play.

Secondly, I still feel that a hands on approach will be required to retain these players after the test game is over. It is no good giving them a taster, then taking away the wine. We don't want to lose these players as they struggle to set up on their own. From my point of view, I am happy to help out with hosting and also to take on new players, be they highly recommended. From the EPL Challenge point of view, I've been very impressed with some of the new people that have joined us, so this talent shouldn't be discounted as "'noobs".

Finally I still think some thought should be given to an Online challenge, to remove the back slapping that the online awards appears, in my opinion, to promote. This encourages achievement, stickability and awards. It may encourage new clan members to aim for forwarding for the ultimate prize by clan hosts. And indeed, I still see no recognition of a response to the annoyance people who pull out regularly of games, while negatively affecting them bring to regulars and hosts. I liked Paul Bray's idea of a A-List etc, (well he's a Gunner )but still feel that some deterrent to this behaviour should be introduced. Again, maybe its something to bring up at the weekly meeting...

[This message was edited by BelfastNiall on 30 December 2003 at 0:31.]
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Old 12-30-2003, 02:48 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #149
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well i'll take encouragment from everyones replies that i managed to hit common ground here.


Can i ask everyones opinion on the forum header, what should we have, what links etc etc

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Old 12-30-2003, 03:18 AM   CMO Announcement 11 Post #150
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I would like to see the restoration of the clan thread links, and obviously links to the faq. Mibbe a link to a technical thread that deals with that side of online play, if there is one.
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