retired_Timbo

Wow shaping up nicely all ready!

KUPTGW!

retired_cleanslate101

You can find that in the official editor.
I'm at work so I can't do you the favour </BLOCKQUOTE>

I checke dit in the editor and it is set to 0. I don't know if that means that it is totally random number of years that it takes to gain nationality or that it is impossible.

retired_candycorncats

NICE experiment!!! :thup: :thup: :thup: :thup: :thup:

KUTGW!!!

retired_julie7ulie

Season 07/08

The second season has exposed a couple of issues with the game.

Only one of the clubs spent money – Fiorita signed Roma’s Samuel Kuffour for £1.6 million. Other than that, the clubs made do with free transfers – some of them more high profile than others. Edwin van der Sar joined Tre Penne (the only club in European competition), while experienced internationalists Damiano Tommassi and Christian Worns joined Fiorentino. Harry Kewell joined Juvenes while Virtus picked up Stefano Fiore and Ivan Helguera for free. Fiore is due to retire at the end of the season and has good coaching stats and Gianluca Pagliuca joined Tre Fiori and is also retiring with good coaching stats. Will these Italians stay on the coaching staff and help the clubs to develop?
A 24 year-old San Marinese midfielder at Murata is also planning to retire – is this a sign of things to come, where the original players are being forced out of the game by the incomers?

The teams have made few signings in general although there were an unusually large number of swap deals between the clubs. Around half of these swap deals have involved youth academy products, while the other half have involved the original San Marinese players. Is the lack of signings an indication that the game can’t cope with teams in unplayable leagues having such large balances, or is it simply that the teams are happy with their mix of extremely gifted youth and experienced foreign internationalists?


On the rich list, the clubs have retained places 2-16 but their values have all decreased – probably due to the high wages being paid and a lack of income through gate revenue.

Rich List



Tre Penne were this year’s European competitors and they surpassed Murata’s achievements of the year before by reaching the semi-finals of the UEFA Cup where they lost to Sampdoria after extra time.

Tre Penne's UEFA Cup Run

I’m not entirely sure how the game decides European qualification. If, as I suspect, it is by reputation then the selection will be totally random because all the clubs have the same reputation. This is a possible issue with the game because clearly you would expect the same 3 or 4 sides to represent the country over the years. We’ll have to see how that develops.


The San Marinese coefficient has been significantly boosted and they now occupy 25th place. However it’s easier to climb places at the bottom than the top and it will be interesting to see if they can break into the traditional top 6 leagues at any point.


Coefficients


Worryingly, the game does not appear to allow San Marinese clubs to gain Champions’ League places or (less importantly) Intertoto Cup places. As you can see there are clubs below San Marino with places in both these events, but San Marino have been given none. I am aware that clubs from Liechtenstein cannot play in the CL because they do not have their own league – but I didn’t think this applied to San Marino which does have its own league. Perhaps someone from SI can clear this issue up for me.


Another apparent problem in the game is the composition of the national team squads. The senior San Marino squad currently has only 10 players in it and does not have a single goalie. There are still some original players in this squad despite there being vastly better young players to choose from – but I guess this could be for experience etc if this is coded in the game. However, I checked the last game they played and they didn’t field any ‘grey’ players so they must have had a full squad at that time.

San Marino Squad

There are full U21 and U19 squads which contain many of the youth players produced by the clubs. In fact there is a player rated at £1.4 million in the U19 squad which highlights the quality of the young players produced by the clubs.

San Marino U19s

San Marino U21s


Despite now having potential superstars at their disposal, San Marino still failed to score a single goal and have lost every game since the experiment started. However there are some signs of progress – they only lost 2-0 to Argentina in one of their most recent matches. They have dropped a few places to 195 in the world rankings which is not surprising considering their results.

World Rankings

retired_lovezay25

I have tried this with Andorra.
First season loads of money spent. Kolo Toure 50 million and loads more.
The only UEFA cup team won it.

Second season Andorra are 10th in coefficients. Yet only get one uefa place. Maybe because all other contriues have scores from lots of seasons yet this first Andorra.
Much less transfers but team in Uefa cup QFinals.

Andorran national team getting beter. No thrashings and two draws against Estonia. Only 2-0 loss to Brazil. Some quality young Andorrans coming through as I set youth training and training to 20 for all clubs.

retired_lovezay25

I also gave Andorra 95,000 seater stadiums to see if that would help.
And made Andorra's population 750,000,000 as they'll probably get more class youngsters that way.
3rd season and Andorra have 2 champions league spots and a uefa cup

retired_Ann1964

More of a problem with any team in an inactive or even just a viewable only league.

For example, I am playing in Spain with England and Italy as view only, Portsmouth didn't make any new signings and were relegated.

Emm

Sorry to rain on your parade but you might want to have a look at this thread and the last couple of posts in particular.

retired_melis419

their values ould have gone up due to the reputation of the club and the reputation of the country

retired_julie7ulie

Season 08/09 Review

In terms of transfers, this was a quiet season. Not one of the clubs spent a penny in transfer fees, and once more there were lots of swap deals between the clubs which is rather unusual. Ronaldo (the Brazilian one) joined Tre Penne and scored 4 goals in 4 appearances but will retire less than a year after joining, at the age of 33. Surprisingly he did not play in any European games despite still having reasonable stats. Players are tending to retire earlier than usual (at the age of 32 or 33), possibly due to the lack of ‘real’ games.

Neither of the players who retired last year stayed on as staff members – but surprisingly, the reputation of the majority of the San Marinese staff at the clubs is World Class and their stats are excellent. This must be linked to the country’s reputation unless San Marino is in fact home to a secret UEFA coaching base. I set my nationality to San Marinese, and I have a Continental reputation despite having never had a job and having my past experience set as Automatic. I have also been linked with major jobs such as Valencia.

The diaspora of San Marinese talents has begun, with 4 players moving to Italy. However nobody has yet dared to travel further afield. Of those who have moved, only 18 year-old Pietro Meroni has played regularly at Empoli in Serie B. Despite this, he is languishing in the San Marino U19s and is uncapped.


On the rich list the clubs have dropped below Real Madrid again but hold on to spots 3-17.

Rich List


This year there were 2 UEFA Cup representatives and both were extremely successful.

Tre Penne reached the semi-finals for the second consecutive year, but lost out to Real Betis. However they overcame clubs such as Sevilla, Aston Villa, Tottenham and Sampdoria to get there.

Tre Penne's UEFA Cup Run


Folgore did even better than their compatriots and made it all the way to the final, managing to succeed where Tre Penne failed by beating Real Betis. Amazingly, they won the UEFA Cup the first time they entered it. And they did it the hard way, beating Marseille, PSG and Werder Bremen in the knock-out stages.


Folgore's UEFA Cup Run

UEFA Cup Final


Tre Penne’s second semi-final in a row propelled them to the giddy heights of 17th in the UEFA club coefficients, while San Marino climbed to 6th on the country list. I would imagine it will be difficult to break into the “Big 5” though.
As Jimbokav has pointed out, there is still no CL spot for a San Marinese club, despite the country deserving 3 places.

Club Coefficients

National Coefficients



The national team has unbelievably still not scored a single goal, despite having some of the hottest talents in Europe. Despite having a World Class manager for the U21s and the U19s, the national team has a manager with a regional reputation and awful stats, so that perhaps explains it.

They’re now 196th in the World Rankings, down another place. Will they ever get rid of the rubbish manager for someone better?


San Marino Squad

San Marino U21 squad

San Marino U19 squad

World Rankings



In other news, an average Bolton team, with Sammy Lee as manager won the Premiership. This was despite basically having the same squad as they do IRL.