retired_terata

I think that's all that needs to be said about your intelligence and thus credibility. </BLOCKQUOTE>

That coupled with the compelling urge to tell us all about it.

retired_coolguy7

This game is massively frustrating at times. And it is probably less "fun" than previuos games. But god it makes getting it right and winning feel so much better

retired_terata

At best, he makes points you agree with. Good? Subject to opinion.

Opinion, not fact. I thoroughly enjoy the game and I'm not exactly tactically apt. I just tweak here and there and hope something good happens and it regularly does. Regular enough for me, I hasten to add. I don't expect near constant succes.

Then FM isn't your game. What you describe there is nothing like a football sim of FM's complexity. You knew that after playing the demo or previous versions.

That's quite a generous accusation. Needs to be quantified or it stands as an emotional outburst without merit.

It might be, but 'flawed' is also subject to taste. I couldn't care less about some famous player's personality not being updated (or some such 'bug' that I've seen reported). To me, that's not a flaw, to others it is. So let's take the flaws you take issue with:

Clueless guessing about the working of the game. You have decided upon the existance of something that would explain the loss, but could be made up out of thin air for all anyone but SI know.

Clueless guessing about the working of the game.

Subject to taste and more guessing.

Unquantified, general rant. How's this supposed to add anything to anything?

There seems to be something to that, but after a lot of discussion it would seem that this has more to do with the way the game 'play acts' the results of the simulation rather than making players worse than they are. Results, in general, seem unaffected by it.

Did not happen to me once. Played four seasons of FM08 so far. This needs backing up with stats and description of used tactics. 'But lots of people reported it' isn't going to cut it because 'lots of people' didn't back it up. Just because people parrot eachother, things don't become fact.

Subject to taste, unquantifiable.

All of what? And no need to get sarky.

Agree completely. We have hardly determined the cause of these feelings, however... </BLOCKQUOTE>

If only Mikealdo could see this, he'll be all over you like a nasty STD.

Thank you for bringing some balance to the extremism of this thread (and forum), it's unfortunate that to do so equates to being a Fanboy, or fanboi depending on the level of illterate chav/ned/pikey that's been threatened by your compse argument.

retired_terata

*composed

LiveForever

people always moan about these threads but they always feel the need to reply to them

retired_kellynew1212

Mitja - DJ is not a fan boy, he is just stating the facts. If some people can't win, they blame the match engine.

retired_rambo_805

Seriously SHUT UP, fed up of all these whine threads, if you dont like it **** off to some other shitty game, if you do like it then hang around! god damn it... some people.

Vinnie K

I have also played this game since the series began and I can honestly say this years game is much harder than previous years, but you could have said that about FM 2007.

Its called a challenge, every year the game Improves a little and gets a little more realism, this year I would say it improved more than usual and that the kinks that need ironing out will take longer because of this.

And stating that you have to change tactics is not holding any water with me, I believe in Wengers approach....let them change their tactics to accomodate my team. 4-4-2 or 4-4-2 Dia are the tactics I've used the entire series and if you get the right players it will produce results.

The game could do with more improvements but SI can only do so much in each new addition without it being a completly new game and I'm sure they'll be new features next year.....better interaction with your own players is being worked on I've read in other areas and is definatly something I would like to see improved.

Game over...........I don't think so.

retired_kendi

I'm not sure if this really happens, but if it does then why is this a bad thing? You expect to hit upon an impossibly good formation and enjoy untold success for all eternity like the old 3-3-1-3 formation on the Amiga? It doesn't happen like that. Teams haven't sat around for years thinking, "Hmmm... Mourinho keeps playing 4-5-1, but I'm sure if we persist with the 4-4-2 against his team then we will be fine...", they recognise what is happening and change accordingly.

retired_princess160

I'm not one to blindly defend the game. Are you trying to discreted my arguments by calling me someone who would? Use arguments, instead.

Facts? All I see, by and large, are assumptions and opinions.

No, most (most, ie, the vast majority) criticisms come down to opinions and worse, echoing others. Proof is usually one screenshot of one match.

I do indeed say that, in the respect that I can not conclude from personal experience that any of the behaviour described by people here holds any truth at all.

Do I get matches with let's say 15 shots at goal, yet no goals? You bet. The cause of that could be so manyfold that I wouldn't have the arrogance calling 'bug' however...

I have to prove a negative? I said nothing other than that I don't find conclusive evidence for the claims made by others...

Extended highlights.
If it's possible, yes. Is it always possible? No. I'd even claim it's almost never possible. Not even for top teams. See real life, and IRL players are a lot more intelligent and adaptable to situations that occur on the field whereas our little blobs have to follow our (flawed?) instructions.
Me, too, I've seen the posts. But in 4 seasons of lower league management, I've not had a match with 30 shots at goal. I do have a shocking shots/shots at goal ratio, but I can easily attribute that to my donkeys who act as players.

I'm more than willing to accept that the match engine might be flawed and that SI have had to find a way to avoid matches ending 10-10 all the time, but I wouldn't know that for a fact and have no clue how the engine works and therefore even less of a clue how such a thing could be solved or how easy that would be.

In the past, I also had a strong feeling that I had to create more chances than the AI to get as many goals. I started collecting data and lo and behold, after 4 seasons it turned out that it was I who had the advantage. The problem is selective memory. It was in my case and I'm as human as the rest of us...

Deeply. 7 and a half years and going strong.