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Old 11-30-2007, 06:36 PM   shooot!!! my goalie's composure and concentration dropped like hell!! Post #11
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I did a little test (in the 'CA/PA - time for a change?' thread if you are interested)

Where I created the perfect 17 yr old goalkeeper with perfect attributes, everything 20 except for gk attributes which were 1. With a starting ability of 100 and a potential of 200.

Obviously he was only 18 so his GK attributes improved, but I could never explain the drop of concentration and composure from 20 to 14 in 8 years. They continued to drop when he moved to AC milan and was first choice.

Its a strange one. which doesn't really make sense. The GK other mental attributes, off the ball, flair, creativity stayed at 20, over the same time.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:00 PM   shooot!!! my goalie's composure and concentration dropped like hell!! Post #12
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Originally posted by Kong:
Concentration is a key attribute for GKs. They need to stay focused for the whole 90 mins or they may be caught out by sudden shots.

Think Buffon, Cech, Casillas

Then think David James.
Yes this is true in reallife..but it doesnt work like that in FM.

I used milan as test ..and Dida with 1 in concentration did just as meny late min saves compared to when he had 20.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:05 PM   shooot!!! my goalie's composure and concentration dropped like hell!! Post #13
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Joor, you haven't given us any real indication of your test methodology: did you go on holiday? Manage them yourself? .. or your results: number of saves, number conceded, average rating? .. and you've quoted a very small sample size (12 matches, only?) .. so I don't accept your repeated assertion.

Personally, I've always used Concentration as a litmus test for goalkeeping - seriously, weighting it as high or higher than "Reflexes" and "Handling". And I've wound up with the Premiership's top-rated 'keeper that way. So you'll have a lot of work to do to convince me that its meaningless.

Composure isn't just an attacking stat, either, the manual states
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Composure: The player's steadiness of mind and ability, particularly with the ball. When faced with a big goal scoring chance or heavy pressure defensively, a player with high composure will be able to keep his head and more often than not make an intelligent decision which is beneficial to the team.
Why wouldn't that apply to goalkeepers, as well?

Similarly, Concentration notably applies to offensive players as well as defensive players, and I've certainly seen low-Eccentricity keepers appear to lose concentration in the 2-d highlights. What else would be causing that?
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:12 AM   shooot!!! my goalie's composure and concentration dropped like hell!! Post #14
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i think it does matter...like i always concede goals while i am infront or leading 3 or more goals....paul robinson only has 10 concentration and composure in my third season...it was 14 before!!!
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i am using spurs now and i am going into my third season after i installed the patch...but for some reasons paul robinson's composure and concentration dropped from 14 to 10?!?!?!

i checked some other keeper like cech and akinfeev...cech had a 19 in concentration and now he only has 13 in my game....what's the problem??

does anyone has this problem?
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