roversawh7

So I've been running single-league long-term holiday games to figure out long-term game effects. I'm choosing countries that I think will have little effect in terms of regen creation to see if the game stays balanced.

My first game ran the Hong Kong league. So far I have simmed it out to the 2126 World Cup. The main questions I had in approaching this game involved player generation and who would win in the international realm. I analyzed every single World Cup and used FM Genie Scout to view top players every 20 years. It was very interesting to see how consistent the game was in the future. Internationally, the game was nearly exactly what it was at the start. The only "shock" teams to win a World Cup were Portugal and Mexico(when dos Santos, Vela, Guardado, and Ochoa were all at their peak). China, which got a lot of regens from running the Hong Kong league, is a consistent qualifier to the World Cup, but has never advanced past the group stages. The game seems very balanced to me. One oddity is that the game ran Portugal as a manageable international job, but apparently due to a lack of Portuguese staff in the game, they have been managerless for nearly 50 years.

My second game is running the top division in Iceland and I've finished the 2090 World Cup. I'm not analyzing this game as closely, but it does create Champions League results, which I'm sure most of us would be interested in. The game chose a few unexpected countries as manageable international jobs, namely Serbia and Turkey. Denmark was expected given that I chose Iceland. Those three countries have acheived more in game than they have thus far in real life, Denmark has great youth success while the other two have made good World Cup runs. In the Champions League, results have mostly for the big clubs of today, with Betis being a shock winner and Steaua winning 7, finishing runners up another 6 times and featuring in the UEFA cup, all while having a club value of 8.5 million(still not on the Richest Clubs list) and having no more than 10 real players, including youth, at any one time. In 2007 Barcelona and Man United faced off..........in the UEFA Cup final. Internationally, this game does appear more tilted towards Europe. European countries have had more success in the World Cup than historically. Brazil and Argentina have not won as much.

Some other interesting notes:
If anyone wanted to know where age wrapped around (like 2 billion for money) it is at 128, meaning that I currently have a negative age in my Hong Kong game. Surprisingly, I'm not the oldest person left in that game. Some clubs sure could use a takeover from their 1940s born chairmen.
The World Club Championship results don't make a whole lot of sense to me. European and South American teams win their fair share, but in both games MLS teams finish in the top 3 frequently, winning several, even with 0 real players. In the Hong Kong game, Asian teams win it every so often, as can be expected.
Certain things in the game are simmed. For example, transfer spending is simulated even if the club does not actually spend it on real players. Inflation probably comes into account here, but in the late 2000s, the Chelseas of the world spend about 1 billion a year and receive hundreds of millions too. It seems inflation happens in the transfer market even if it does not in terms of club values.
The game seems to have many world class strikers at one time of varying nationalities.
Using Genie Scout, I like to evaluate players with great international records and nearly all of them are strikers. The only other position with consistent strength is at keeper.

I hope you enjoyed these observations. I will post more specific updates in the near future, and add some screenshots of competition results. I will not be doing too many screenies of players as I do not have saves with the real players and there have been many fantastic regens.

samios

Wtf, You played the game to 2126? That must have took ages?

follow the blind

he didnt play it, he let ir roll....

anyway, there are actually too many strikers and goakeepers, when i do a search on genie scout to see who are the best players usually people with CA over 180. They are nearly always strikers and GK's. There are a few central defenders but there are hardly any GREAT players in other positions, this is looking interesting, needs more detail and it will be good.

roversawh7

I will add updates as I have time, especially an analysis of the Hong Kong game, as well as screenshots. Ironically, not having time means I can just let the computer run the game.

The winner of the 2150 World Cup in the Iceland game is...


Mexico

No shock winners in the last 60 years. Steua continues European success with another 5 titles and 6 runners up. The best Icelandic regen right now came through the Barcelona youth system, got picked up for free by Villareal, then Madrid paid millions for him. Strange he did not originate in Iceland. Iceland is ranked 68th in the world right now. Portugal is managerless right now. Is the financial wrap-around point 2.147 billion? Those are the transfer spending records for Milan, Chelsea, and Arsenal.

My manager's profile (Note the age)

Current World Cup records

Current European Coefficients

Richest clubs in the world

Also, would anyone else be willing to run similar holiday games. It would be one league, long-term. Leagues I was thinking of running were South Africa, Uruguay or other South American country besides Brazil and Argentina, Australia, another small Asian country, and another small European country. I have found that it does not take up much space to run a small league and small database, even after 100 years. It would be interesting to compare long-term effects and analyze the effects of choosing particular leagues.

Benjaminoo

Very interesting holiday game. :thup:

Any idea on about how much time it takes to do 100 years on the small database and if you run a small league?

If it dosen't take too long, I might run a holiday game myself and run a holiday in a small country.