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I did an experiment were i picked my best team with Arsenal pre season and saved the game. I then used the same players and switched them around so they were all playing out of position. My CD were playing upfront my RB was playing LM etc... Tha only player i left in his correct position was the goalkeeper.
I then loaded and played 18 matches in total against 4 different teams and the results were a shock. The team with all the players out of position got 24 points and a goal difference over the 18 games of -5. The good team as i called it got only 23 points and a goal difference of -2.
Amazinlgy for a game that is supposed to be realistic, playing my whole team out of position had no effect on results at all. The reason i did this experiment is i had done the same with fifa manager and the results were similar but there 3D engine gets allot of abuse so wasn't a total surprise. I didn't however expect the same to happen with football manager.
18 matches is not that many but for no difference to show after 18 games doesn't say much for the match engine reflecting players skills in certain positions. My CF played as well as a CD as he did as a CF. Likewise my CD was just as good as a CF.
You played the same teams in each experiment right? I feel I should mention that a fullback would have some qualities that would make them able to be striker-ish if required (speed, strength, heading ability, anticipation).
Originally posted by The_Ultimate_Red_Devil:
Just so we're on the same page...
You played the same teams in each experiment right? I feel I should mention that a fullback would have some qualities that would make them able to be striker-ish if required (speed, strength, heading ability, anticipation).
That does seam very stupid & in reall life it would never happen that way. Still you were playing with Arsenal & all thier players are freaks of nature. I dont think even one of their 1st team players is under 160 CA.
Both "teams" got a negative scoreline.And it was pre season?.
You might wanna test this a bit further...
I am also managing arsenal in my game, and due to some injuries in a match very early on i had to play gallas up front and Walcott as right back.(well i didnt have to play gallas up front, but at the time it seemed a good idea prefered him over Simpson due to heading skills...
It was a mess at home to Villa, lost 3-1, Walcott gettin a 3!!, Gallas however made a 5..
Originally posted by Mike007:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by The_Ultimate_Red_Devil:
Just so we're on the same page...
You played the same teams in each experiment right? I feel I should mention that a fullback would have some qualities that would make them able to be striker-ish if required (speed, strength, heading ability, anticipation).
That does seam very stupid & in reall life it would never happen that way. Still you were playing with Arsenal & all thier players are freaks of nature. I dont think even one of their 1st team players is under 160 CA. </BLOCKQUOTE>
I seem to remember Mourinho saying that since he was short of DCs he may have to put Drogba in as DC.
I played 3 teams 5 times each and than 1 team 3 times. For each game i picked my best team and saved it as good team and then moved all the players around and saved it as crap team. Only problem is the crap team out performed the good team.
The Arsenal players might be good but i very much doubt they are all equally as good at LM as RB and as a CF then a CD. Judging by my test i could buy a squad full of decent strikers and do just as well as with a balanced squad.
It would make you wonder how much diference all your tactical changes are doing if the basic job of playing your players in position doesn't even matter.
And i bet he still wouldnt make a total azz off himself. Good skills are good skills wherever you put a player, even if he dont play as well as designated players in that pos.
But walcott did make a mess off that right back job
If you are averageing barely 1.3 points per game with Arsenal, I would suggest that maybe the problem is not the players individual skills or the game engine; maybe instead the problem is the manager!?
Remember as well the players are all playing in positions were they don't have the required skills to be good in, i made sure of that. Which means the players with bad tackling and heading skills shouldn't be playing well in CD and likewise players with bad skills in dribbling and crossing shouldn't be playing well on the wing.
Individual skills don't matter? 
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