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Old 11-17-2007, 10:13 PM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #51
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This is Arsenal, they've got world-class playes and you're going to get some good results no matter who you play or where you play them - or how bad your tactics are.
I assure you, that is not correct at all.
Use a bad tatics with Arsenal, and you will get beaten by many teams. And by the way, if you wanna keep up with the top runners in game,(and as arsenal you got to!), a draw away might not be what you looking for.

Bottom line, like with all other teams, you got to find a good tatics, and find players that suit your tatics.Luckily arsenal have a few to select from, thats correct.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:18 PM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #52
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But back to topic, i would assume that all players in the arsenal setup could do a decent job anywere on pich if called for.In my game walcott didnt do a good RB job, but i have just played Gallas up front again away against Blackburn, he came in at 56 min, and bagged a goal in 73, played a 6. he is adapting well(mind you this is not a test, a nessesary subsitute, for the time being i am short off strikers with heading ability)
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:00 PM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #53
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Did you holiday thrue the 18 games? If you did, how do you know if the assman changed the players back to their natural positions during the game?
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:07 PM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #54
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Did you holiday thrue the 18 games? If you did, how do you know if the assman changed the players back to their natural positions during the game?
He would. Decent question.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:15 PM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #55
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<BLOCKQUOTE>This is Arsenal, they've got world-class playes and you're going to get some good results no matter who you play or where you play them - or how bad your tactics are.
I assure you, that is not correct at all.
Use a bad tatics with Arsenal, and you will get beaten by many teams. And by the way, if you wanna keep up with the top runners in game,(and as arsenal you got to!), a draw away might not be what you looking for.

Bottom line, like with all other teams, you got to find a good tatics, and find players that suit your tatics.Luckily arsenal have a few to select from, thats correct. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasn't indicating they'd finish high in the league, just that getting e few points here and there isn't beyond the realms of possibility.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:30 AM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #56
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Even the gunners would suffer both ingame, and irl, if their tatics was not up to standards.
Style off play and individual skills need to be carefully watched. Luckily the gunners have a master at work to guide his players in Wenger
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:49 AM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #57
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I agree that a few people are missing the point about this.

Surely anyone with any knowledge of football would know that playing one player out of position would probably be ok for most teams, but nevertheless a small risk.

But a whole TEAM out of position? Arsenal shouldn't be getting any points in most games with this team, let alone 1.3!

The experiment throws up the question whether or not there are some serious flaws that need remedy.

Don't come on here trashing a valid point which came from a fair test.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:58 AM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #58
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Arsenal shouldn't be getting any points in most games with this team, let alone 1.3!
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Don't come on here trashing a valid point which came from a fair test.
You are missing one big point, a test is not a conclusion,is it?.
And to use a team like arsenal in the test, with the players they have, is maybe not the best way to get a fair understanding off the possible problem?.
And as far as i understand, it is pre season?, what team did he play?, what did ass man do if on holiday? etc.
I bet you arsenal could be a fair match for many teams even if they switched around their entire team, and i am not only saying that bacause i am a gunner fan
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:12 AM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #59
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Also, if these were friendly matches and you did holiday, when the assistant made substitutions he'd put players in their correct positions.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:41 AM   Individual skills don't matter? Post #60
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To sum it up, for a test to be precise, every match have to be played just the same way. If an injury/sending off etc occurs in one test and not the other the conclusion cannot be made.

This even if he didnt use the ass man. If ass man used, well then it cant be relied upon at all, cause he makes his own desicions.

Would be nice to see this test made over say a season, with many teams off different levels. But it still will be hard to get any precise results out off it. To many things would influence the test.
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