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Old 12-01-2007, 02:21 AM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #71
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Not whilst the testing is this unreliable, vague, sketchy, dubious et al.

To be honest I've got better things to do than pick holes, just found the duplicity of threads and loss of argument in previous one a little entertaining in it's desperation.

agree with you completely!!

the point i would like to make is that he is saying the players are playing just as well, so they cant be playing to thier attributes, but would gallas playing upfront have the same shooting accuracy as van persie and would van persie have the same amount of tackles a game as gallas? because then you could argue that they are playing to well out of position.

another point is players can play out of position, flamini at left back a couple of years ago proved as much, granted he is one player out of positon not a whole team but players can adapt!
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:29 AM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #72
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Everybody should really try that themselves, it's easy to come here and say anything you like without any knowledge or experience. If you're interested, try it yourselves and then maybe come here to tell what YOU did experience, not that everyone else who has tested this or thinks otherwise is wrong because you think so. People want to get this solved and it's not gonna get solved or disappear if you just deny it. I experimented a bit and I think nickdundee is having a very valid point here. :thup:
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:29 AM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #73
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One other thing to point out. If you change a player's position data then on a monthly basis in game FM will re-align his attributes to fit that CA for that position.

So if you change player X from striker to centre half, then at some point within a game world month his attributes will be reshaped somewhat so he reflects his CA for a centre half.

Hope this makes sense!

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PaulC, thx for the reply and that does make sense yes.
Still as a manager of a player you would normally in real life know pretty good how good he is at certain things.
But in those first months (maybe years) his stats will still be pretty low but still he would manage to preform better then his stats show every time.
I can imagine that after 8-10 games as a manager you would by then know how good he really is and so should his stats be then, don't you think?
Maybe we all ask to much lately, but after reading this it got me seriously thinking about the way i now have to look at my players, and i think i can even ignore their stats to just have my best 11 (in CA/PA ratings) selected no matter what positions they would naturally play in.
This makes me seriously reviewing my strategy's in LLM games now.
Since strikers and attacking players ask for higher wages i might be able to have less of them, and just play with defending players in attacking positions, to save money.

I have also a side question about goals in games.
I noticed that there are almost no more high scoring games anymore with 8.0.1, is this a known issue?
Highest win in total season by all the teams was 5-1 and this only because the loosing side had 3 red cards.
My highest win was 3-0 against a lower league team.
(Sorry for my off topic question, but i just ended my first season and this was something that i found somewhat odd)
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:38 AM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #74
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One other thing to point out. If you change a player's position data then on a monthly basis in game FM will re-align his attributes to fit that CA for that position.

So if you change player X from striker to centre half, then at some point within a game world month his attributes will be reshaped somewhat so he reflects his CA for a centre half.

Hope this makes sense!

Paul
The ... point ... is that Kaka is performing WELL out of position , more so as a GOALKEEPER before any of his stats get adjusted, more so his most relevant stats average out at 2 or amateurish level for his position as a GK.

Yet he plays in Serie A and gets ratings of 7 ?

One more time, he plays as a GK with 1's and 2's in more then half the relevant stats and manages to keep clean sheets ? Nope , doesent hold water, try again.
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