Vitticeps

Or not even that. There is no way to explain how a Juventus reserve of worst players can perform 2nd - 6th on table. I noticed that in the new game. Looks like it plays like that just because it's Juventus. There's something really wrong here.

retired_tamifc

The FM myth shattered??

If ever a thread needed an official response.

retired_terata

Actually it was about 12 days ago and is sevewral threads down... any reason for starting a clean one?

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Oddly, these are your only 2 contributions, and either thread has the requested savegame link?

Also, I notice people talking about changing a players position in database? If you are messing with the database your points are somewhat redundant?

retired_megatron

Actually it was about 12 days ago and is sevewral threads down... any reason for starting a clean one?

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Oddly, these are your only 2 contributions, and either thread has the requested savegame link?

Also, I notice people talking about changing a players position in database? If you are messing with the database your points are somewhat redundant? </BLOCKQUOTE>

the only reason hes changing the position is to prove a point that normal player attributes dont matter, such as stats like handleing, and that the game is relying on something different, which makes his point very important

retired_terata

Not whilst the testing is this unreliable, vague, sketchy, dubious et al.

To be honest I've got better things to do than pick holes, just found the duplicity of threads and loss of argument in previous one a little entertaining in it's desperation.

retired_autumnwind.78

No-one is trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. I'll get our QA team to test this out, as its not something I recall being mentioned before.

retired_autumnwind.78

One other thing to point out. If you change a player's position data then on a monthly basis in game FM will re-align his attributes to fit that CA for that position.

So if you change player X from striker to centre half, then at some point within a game world month his attributes will be reshaped somewhat so he reflects his CA for a centre half.

Hope this makes sense!

Paul

retired_faline50

This is pretty interesting. I guess I'm not the one to prove anything but I just tried this for my own amusement. Downloaded FMM and changed my Pisa's reputation to full (10000) and raised my best CM's CA to 200 and one of my striker's CA to 192 and then played the friendly match against a nearly all-grey team from Serie C1.

Before, I've tried so many variations of tactics and everything, and nearly always lost by a couple of goals with opponent seemingly dominating, but me having more possession and more shots (pretty even tackling, headers etc.). My players used to score 5-7 as their ratings but shots went pretty evenly, my players only didn't score and the opponent did. Now I sticked to my first 4-4-2 and beat Cittadella easily 2-0. Shots were to them 19-13, but now their strikers shot desperately wide. In earlier tries they were very comfortably converting from samish situations. Now it was my team which used their chances.

I can only say that they might have used a little bit more defensive approach because of my new reputation, formation was the same, but that shouldn't affect striker breakthroughs etc. For the first time I felt I was controlling the play comfortably, and my players got ratings from 8 to 9 with one 7. So this went pretty much the same way as my earlier games, this time only I was the team without ball and less shots but good ratings and most important, more goals. Assman teamtalks were affected too, if it wasn't clear. :thup:

retired_cmlafevers

exactly what I was going to say.

except with conjecture and rhetoric about how chelsea's players are all superstat'd so could play anywhere, thus the experiment proves nothing except that the AI looks at positional info ahead of player stats, instead of, like, factual knowledge of the way the game works.

what you should try doing is leaving them as they are in the db, and then playing them out of position yourself. it'd take longer so you couldn't do as many games, but you'd seen how well they performed.

retired_faline50

And I'm sorry for complaining about really bad players performing their miracles , because it seems to be needless now. CB with long shots at 5 scoring from 35 yards, ordinary for now? :o