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Old 11-30-2007, 07:54 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #31
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Ah, found the original mention of this.

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Originally posted by fmadonai:
I think you have to take into account though, if your buying fm2008 to go on holiday, then you should expect the game to take short cuts, and the individuation of stats vs the quality of team appears to be one of those short cuts.
I'm hoping the poster above was wrong about the game taking shortcuts in holiday mode. To me, it doesn't really make sense to take shortcuts. If the game is programmed to work in full while you're there, it would mean extra development effort to create a second, shorter method of doing things when you're not.

I suppose a thrid test would be to do as the original poster did by altering players natural positions, and then to take charge of another team in the same league and play through a while season.

My first thought was to control a club in a different league, so as not to influence results when your team plays against the modified team, but to control a club in the same league would ensure the game calculates things properly, and doesn't take shortcuts because it's not in your active league.


Maybe what it all boils down to is the game mainly uses players CA when deciding the outcome of games that you are not directly sitting in the dugouts of, so all other games in the league, and your games when you're on holiday.
If that is the case, that FM only ever calculates all the attributes during YOUR matches, then that's either a big let-down, or most PC's simply wouldn't be able to run the game fast enough with total calculation on all matches... or both.

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Old 11-30-2007, 07:56 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #32
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a while season = a whole season
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:57 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #33
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I did play Samaras as a leftback one game by mistake. I didnt notice anything odd watching the highlights but only spotted it after the game as he got MoM!
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:59 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #34
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Originally posted by sum loving:
To me, it doesn't really make sense to take shortcuts. If the game is programmed to work in full while you're there, it would mean extra development effort to create a second, shorter method of doing things when you're not.
Oh, but we already know that there are at least two methods for calculation, don't we? "Full Detail" and "whatever the other one is called".
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:59 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #35
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Interesting test. but as Lyssien said someone will probably need to perform more tests (and over long period of time) to get a proper concludion. I might do that over the holiday period to see if this indeed is true.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:03 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #36
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Full detail matches are simulated using the full match engine - these matches include any match you take part in, any match involving a competition that a human team is involved with, and any matches set to "Full Detail" processing.

Everything else uses the quick match engine, which will not give perfect results but on the whole will give a realistic overview.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:13 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #37
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lyvean:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Joor:
Im going to do a quick test with KAKA as GK since he got the highest CA in my team...brb
No, you don't get it. You must make the game think that KAKA is GK by changing its natural position. In that case, the game will think that KAKA is GK and if he plays good (across several matches) it will prove that attributes do not matter, only CA.

Then there will be a new day for all of us... </BLOCKQUOTE>

And thats what i did..using FMM 2.2 editor.
Here we see my new super keeper, as Tassotti report: he thinks kaka is twise as good as dida - a leading star.
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Kaka GK stats: Stats


Hes first game on the position he got a 7.
Firstgame

Will play a few more games..brb
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:19 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #38
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If you holidayed the ass man puts the players in their correct position.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:22 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #39
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Joor, please keep us updated whether he actually make any good saves.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:23 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #40
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Quote:
Originally posted by Joor:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Lyvean:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Joor:
Im going to do a quick test with KAKA as GK since he got the highest CA in my team...brb
No, you don't get it. You must make the game think that KAKA is GK by changing its natural position. In that case, the game will think that KAKA is GK and if he plays good (across several matches) it will prove that attributes do not matter, only CA.

Then there will be a new day for all of us... </BLOCKQUOTE>

And thats what i did..using FMM 2.2 editor.
Here we see my new super keeper, as Tassotti report: he thinks kaka is twise as good as dida - a leading star.
Superkeeper
Kaka GK stats: Stats


Hes first game on the position he got a 7.
Firstgame

Will play a few more games..brb </BLOCKQUOTE>

wow lol what rubbish gk stats but twice as good as dida. proves enough for me
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