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Old 11-30-2007, 07:12 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #21
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But surely you could argue any run of results is irrelevant because they might have been in good form for one part and bad form for the other. Which would in turn make it impossible to prove anything.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:15 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #22
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Originally posted by Lyssien:
OK, assume this situation:
a) his first test's results (when he actually played the games) were distorted by some coincidental bad-form streak of the "good" team, while the "bad" team played to its strength.
b) in this second test, you can't reach players quality conclusions with holiday mode tests, because on holiday mode the game relies heavily on reputation.

If (a) and (b) are correct, then these tests prove nothing.

So, are (a) and (b) true? I don't know. Neither does Nickdundee. So proper tests have to be made.
Ah, thanx mate. Cheers.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:22 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #23
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But surely you could argue any run of results is irrelevant because they might have been in good form for one part and bad form for the other. Which would in turn make it impossible to prove anything.
Yes, too many, I agree. So one has to do enough to persuade other people. I am personally not persuaded by the above, for the reasons I stated in my previous post. If he repeated his previous test (NOT THIS ONE!) 10 times and saw a strong pattern, I would probably be upset myself.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:26 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #24
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I want to say; WTF?!
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:28 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #25
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So all that really matters is only your players current ability? ..if your striker have 5 finishing or 20 doesnt?
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:36 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #26
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on holiday mode the game relies heavily on reputation.
Do you know this as fact?

If that's true, then that in itself is a big let down. Whenever I holiday, the game seems to take just as long processing matches, and I therefore assumed the game still does use the same workflow to calculate things.

If I'm running leagues across multiple countries, and I go on holiday during my end of season break, do the other countries that are still in season get calculated by a less thorough and less accurate engine? If this is a case it's a long way from realism.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:38 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #27
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Im going to do a quick test with KAKA as GK since he got the highest CA in my team...brb
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Sum loving, no, I don't know myself. Fmadonai and Ched suggested this possibility previously in this thread, please see their posts.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:45 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #29
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So all that really matters is only your players current ability? ..if your striker have 5 finishing or 20 doesnt?
might explain why i've had hopeless finishers top my scoring charts ahead of players with 18+ finishing.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:54 PM   Player Attributes are Irrelevant... I think SI are pulling the wool over our eyes. Post #30
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Im going to do a quick test with KAKA as GK since he got the highest CA in my team...brb
No, you don't get it. You must make the game think that KAKA is GK by changing its natural position. In that case, the game will think that KAKA is GK and if he plays good (across several matches) it will prove that attributes do not matter, only CA.

Then there will be a new day for all of us...
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